How powerful are hospital unions? - page 3

Just curious.... I start my first job as a GN at a large hospital that is unionized in August. During my interview, I was told that the staffing on the floor I will work on (telemetry) is 4:1. ... Read More

  1. Visit  Dana1969 profile page
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    Our union (CNA) has zero power in our facility. During the last contract negotiation, two the four nurses on the bargaining team were summarily fired (given the choice of submitting their two week notices, or being terminated that day). I worked with one of them, and kno for a fact that the allgedged infraction was not true. One of them is suing, the other has given up. Management will lie, cheat, and obfuscate to cover their behinds. While the nurses just keep getting thrown under that bus we call healthcare. CNA is a joke.
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  2. Visit  nicurn001 profile page
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    The joke is that nurses moan and groan about their employers , but are not prepared to do a damn thing about it . On the occasions the nurses have stood together in my facility we have ALWAYS got what we wanted , yet even with that record , some will not do anything to stand up for what is right , they will ask what the union is doing re. a problem , my response is what are you prepared to do , if they offer nothing I have told them then thre union will be unable to do anything as they are the union !.
    Dana , what did you and your coworkers do to support your bargaining team members ? .
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  3. Visit  Woodenpug profile page
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    That may be why I have always been disappointed by my experiences with closed shops. Then again, I notice that a large union participates in "Occupy wherever," but does not seem to be strongly advocating for nursing concerns. The occupy movement is important, but a union representing nurses interests would be active in advocating for nurses. Pay, which equals more union dues, is not the only issue. For example, hospitals should be governed by nurses. The least acceptable outcome should be that a majority of the governing board is licensed as an RN.


    But, I am trying to keep an open mind. It's hard after several years of negative experiences. I recognize my bias.
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  4. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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  5. Visit  Woodenpug profile page
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    Let's see, is NNU in any way connected with the union that opposed the compact, cuz practice was so different in different states? I guess not. Unions are great. I should know the horse in Animal Farm is my cousin.
  6. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    i don't think the state can take action against the actual out of state license regardless of the impact on patient safety. for instance the statistically successful diversion programs many states have to help impaired nurses regain their licenses after treatment could only be used in the actual state of licensure. the only possible action to protect the public would be for the state where the offense occurred to attempt to revoke the compact license altogether.

    also in my state rns have the obligation and the right to advocate in the best interest of the patient. i some states nurses are expected to put the budget of the employer before what is best for patient care.
    troubled nurses skip from state to state under compact
    nurse craig peske was fired from a hospital in wausau, wis., in 2007 after stealing the powerful painkiller dilaudid "whenever the opportunity arose," [color=#2262cc]state records say [2]. in one three-month period, he signed out 245 syringes full of the drug-nine times the average of his fellow nurses.

    hospital officials reported him to wisconsin nursing regulators and alerted police.
    six months later, peske was charged with six felony counts of narcotic possession. but by that time, he had used a special "multistate" license to get a job as a traveling nurse at a hospital 1,200 miles away in new bern, n.c.

    "when i went to go for the job in north carolina, i looked at the status of my license and it was still active," said peske, 36, who was later convicted of two felony drug charges. "that kind of surprised me, so i figured i would take it."

    the ease of peske's move illustrates significant gaps in regulatory efforts nationwide to keep nurses from avoiding the consequences of misconduct by hopping across state lines. ...
    troubled nurses skip from state to state under compact - propublica
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  7. Visit  Woodenpug profile page
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    Quote from herring_rn
    i don't think the state can take action against the actual out of state license regardless of the impact on patient safety. for instance the statistically successful diversion programs many states have to help impaired nurses regain their licenses after treatment could only be used in the actual state of licensure. the only possible action to protect the public would be for the state where the offense occurred to attempt to revoke the compact license altogether.

    also in my state rns have the obligation and the right to advocate in the best interest of the patient. i some states nurses are expected to put the budget of the employer before what is best for patient care.
    and i feel guilty for being "off topic."
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  8. Visit  RN Zeke profile page
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    I am a compact RN with multiple license....We are finger printed, back ground check, credit check, child support check...on and on with our CHECKS. Sure some must fall fall thru the crack, but whose fault is that?
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    Quote from RN Zeke
    I am a compact RN with multiple license....We are finger printed, back ground check, credit check, child support check...on and on with our CHECKS. Sure some must fall fall thru the crack, but whose fault is that?
    Well, historically, it's because the NNU was not supported enough to oppose the compact. Most of us know the NNU as CNA opposed the compact. Since the union is always right, it must be because we have not participated enough to meet the union agenda. Too bad the patient suffers.
  10. Visit  RN Zeke profile page
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    This post needs to be moved to a different thread. Responding and not having knowledge of compact requirements and union requirements should not happen. Good Bye!
  11. Visit  laborer profile page
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    This is the power of a labor union............... Sutter Tracy RNs Vote to Join CA Nurses Association | National Nurses United
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    Quote from laborer
    this is the power of a labor union............... sutter tracy rns vote to join ca nurses association | national nurses united
    "these include meal and break relief nurse positions to ensure that patients are safely cared for at all times," these are the type of things i would like to hear about unions. those things that actually help regular clinical nurses. the other issues listed in that article are less important to me.
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