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Another Texas Hospital Goes Union

  1. 8 This is brand new - the vote count just finished minutes ago - and I have no more info than that bare fact, but nurses at another Texas hospital - only the second in the state (so far) have chosen union representation. The hospital is Rio Grande Hospital in McAllen, owned by corporated giant Hospital Corporation of America. The union is National Nurses Organizing Committee - NNOC. Several other HCA-owned hospitals in Texas have have elections scheduled in the next few weeks.
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  3. Visit  mdfog10 profile page
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    Nurses are taking back our Profession !!!! We provide the care , we are the experts, we have the power to change healthcare!!!!
    laborer, MissPiggy, RN4MERCY, and 2 others like this.
  4. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    My understanding is that the vote was 170ish to 160ish in favor. It's going to be interesting to see how this works out.
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  5. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    Quote from Bortaz, RN
    My understanding is that the vote was 170ish to 160ish in favor. It's going to be interesting to see how this works out.
    177-152, I think. Yes, it will be interesting indeed. Organizing in a so called "right to work" state is harder, since there is no compulsion to pay dues, it's harder to get the unity you need to get good contracts. But NNOC has had good success in Nevada and is building chain-wide power in HCA, which makes a real difference.
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  6. Visit  PICUPNP profile page
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    The only positive aspect of unions in Texas is that it will be easier access to good money when they go on strike for one ridiculous reason or another! I hear working hospitals on strike is really good money. Until now, we would have to travel to do this but now...........
  7. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    Quote from PICUPNP
    The only positive aspect of unions in Texas is that it will be easier access to good money when they go on strike for one ridiculous reason or another! I hear working hospitals on strike is really good money. Until now, we would have to travel to do this but now...........
    Don't go counting that money you hope to steal from your fellow nurses quite yet. My union is one of the most aggressive in the country, but about 97% of our contracts settle without strikes.
    laborer, Patricia B, RN, MissPiggy, and 1 other like this.
  8. Visit  PICUPNP profile page
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    It's not stealing if they're not at the bedside where they belong.
    Last edit by PICUPNP on May 23, '10 : Reason: spelling
  9. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    Quote from PICUPNP
    It's not stealing if they're not at the bedside where they belong.
    It's an interesting thing you know. I don't want to make assumptions casually, but I would hazard a guess that you consider yourself a conservative and a believer in individual rights. So why is it that so many people who think of themselves that way are so quick to deny workers the right to choose to join with others to better their lot? Hospitals all belong to a union. They pay thousands of dollars a year in dues to belong to the hospital assn. because they know that they are stronger as a group than they are individually. Insurance companies all belong to a union, (AHIP) because they know that when they go to lobby congress it helps if they speak with one voice rather than individuals. Conservatives seem to have no trouble with those big business interests joining together. But let ordinary workers choose to join together, and suddenly there is something Un-American about it. For a worker, individually or in a group, to choose to withold his or her labor in order to raise the price of that labor is exactly the kind of thing that businesses do in order to raise the price of what they sell.
    Now, as othere nurses in Texas organize and begin to raise standards and raise wages and benefits in Texas, you will be ever so smugly proud that you will get some collateral benefit from their work and sacrifice without paying for it. And if, by chance, some of them are forced to strike, you'll be happy to enrich yourself by making it harder for them to accomplish the goals they choose to sacrifice for. So you will not only benefit from what they accomplish, you will help make it harder for them to accomplish it. Which is why union people consider scabs to be a couple notches lower than thieves on the moral scale.
  10. Visit  PICUPNP profile page
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    #1 I'm not about denying anyones right to collectively organize and bargain. I am against unions. My opinion, not others.

    #2 Smugly proud...Hmmm.

    #3 What union people think of me has no bearing on me or my practice. Sticks and stones.......

    #4 My politics...I have no politics. I don't vote by choice in any election, presidential or otherwise.

    #5 Yes. I would definitely cross a picket line at my hospital or any other where patients need care! If that makes it harder for nurses here or there to organize, so be it. Its not about money or unions, its about caring for those who need it when union idiots walk out on their patients.
  11. Visit  Shannon Doggett profile page
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    Local newspapers are reporting that management was prevented from talking with nurses about the union because of an agreement HCA made with the union. So, the nurses only heard what the union told them. I guess it isn't surprising that the nurses voted to go union, but I'm not sure that being forced to vote based on one-sided information is an example of people exercising their rights. Certainly, it isn't an example of nurses taking back our profession. Instead, it looks to me like an example of nurses being sold out by their employer to a union - because now they'll have to pay dues in order to take part in any union votes.
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  12. Visit  nicurn001 profile page
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    Because employers recieve notice the legally required notice that nurses have voted for and are going to go on strike . The arguement that patients are going to be abandoned is spurios . If indeed any patient is without care when the strike starts it is because management has not taken the appropriate steps to ensure adequate staffing ie. either settle the strike , get strike breakers in to cover the positons or to transfer out patients to other facilities if they cannot get staff .
    Staffing wise it is as though the staffing office is notified that a number of nurses will be off at a certain date , so they need to look at all alternatives to cover the staffing requirements .
    Yes there are consequences to nurses being unavailable , but there are also consequences to inadequate staffing , how are these to be mitigated in the face of intransigent management , who would much rather care for their bottom line , than the patients straight line , consequential to poor staffing .
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  13. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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  14. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    Quote from Shannon Doggett
    Local newspapers are reporting that management was prevented from talking with nurses about the union because of an agreement HCA made with the union. So, the nurses only heard what the union told them. I guess it isn't surprising that the nurses voted to go union, but I'm not sure that being forced to vote based on one-sided information is an example of people exercising their rights. Certainly, it isn't an example of nurses taking back our profession. Instead, it looks to me like an example of nurses being sold out by their employer to a union - because now they'll have to pay dues in order to take part in any union votes.
    Don't read everything you read in the paper. In order to promote a more civil process than occurs in some places during a union organizing drive, the union and management agreed to a set of ground rules that put restraints on both sides. There was a vigorous anti-union campaign with anti-union materials widely available throughout the hospital. And, of course, anyone who has grown up in America in the last 50 years has been exposed to a lifetime of anti-union propaganda, so it's not as if that information has been unavailable to them.
    On the other hand, what there was NOT was hospital management spending millions to bring in outside anti-union "consultants" to run a campaign of lies and intimidation, like we had when I helped organize my hospital. And there also were not "one-to-one" meetings where nurses are taken off the floor into a small room with a senior manager and harangued for hours about how voting for a union will destroy the hospital. There also were
    not the instances of fraud and forgery that we had at our hospital when the union busters forged fake documents that were purported to be from the union. Without all of those things, the nurses had a chance to make a rational choice in an intimidation-free atmosphere and chose to become union members.
    MissPiggy, laborer, elkpark, and 3 others like this.

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