If You are Paying for a CNA Course... aka The Post I Wish I'd Read a Month Ago. - page 3

I am a 50-year old former teacher pursuing a 2nd career. Last Fall semester I applied to an RN program at a community college in the State University of New York (SUNY) system. This particular... Read More

  1. by   Ramcharger310
    If your are in an RN program, you should have looked into CNA equivalency requirements (i.e. completion of Fundamentals of Nursing) and perhaps saved some dough.
  2. by   MadruGada
    chacha82 re “many facilities have rules about overtime in efforts to keep costs low.”


    nauticalgirl re “no facility is going to dole out overtime pay like that.”

    The nursing home where our clinicals were completed starts CNAs at a base pay of $12/hr. Signs posted above every time clock practically beg employees to do overtime: “Did you do your 3 extra shifts yet to get your $250 Bonus?” Upon further inquiry one learns that CNAs during a two-week pay period are eligible to earn $12 x 80hrs + $18 x 24hrs (the 24hrs representing the “3 extra shifts” which constitute overtime and per NYS law require $ compensation @ “time-and-a-half” i.e. 1.5 times usual hourly rate) + the bonus of $250. While you are doing the math do know that these numbers do not include the financial incentives granted for weekends, holidays, 2nd/3rd shifts, years in service, paid vacation/sick leave, medical, and/or the $1K sign-on bonus. Just the basic numbers alone for a 104-hour pay period = gross $15.78/hr. The bottom line is this: 18-year-old newlywed couples in New York state (not necessarily New York city) with mere high school diplomas or GEDs can qualify for, and successfully complete, a mortgage on a decent house. They can raise a family independent of taxpayer-funded handouts. But work ethic, appreciation, & gratefulness are prerequisites. Basically, one needs to have been raised Right, and not raised with the entitlement mentality that the world owes them something for nothing.

    nauticalgirl re “Work in a hospital setting is not comparable to the workload a CNA has in a nursing home.”

    Correct, which is why, at least this region, CNAs in nursing homes receive greater pay vs CNAs in hospitals.

    Ramcharger310 re “If your are in an RN program, you should have looked into CNA equivalency requirements (i.e. completion of Fundamentals of Nursing) and perhaps saved some dough.”

    The hospitals described to Paws2people in post #6 do in fact hire RN students as NA’s (Nursing Assistants, uncertified) to do the work that CNAs don’t want to to do in departments/hospitals where CNAs don’t want to be. Certification is required for the position I want in the place I want (noted in my article).

    You posters who can’t seem to figure out the taxpayers’ role in NYS nursing homes: Educate yourselves re Medicaid/care, and where nursing homes find the hundreds of dollars per day per room (average single price in NYS = $351 per person per day) to keep their establishments up and running, and lay off the fake news spewing from CNN, MSNBC, & New York Times. People, there ain’t no free lunch.
  3. by   theatretonursing
    I attended my direct entry MSN prerequisites at a community college. I took Anatomy I and II, Microbiology, and Chemistry I and II.

    I had a bachelors degree. Many of my classmates were 18 yo. Many of them didn't seem to appreciate class or understand how to be a good student.

    You know what I did?

    I led by example. I gently reigned them in, but also sometimes participated in the fun, because studying is hard and sometimes it's ok to take a break. If I really couldn't handle their in-class behavior, I discussed it with my instructors, who always watched, saw what I meant, and got a little firm wiht them. Or they split me off and had me work with another older student or in a trio with a more mature pair.

    I also used it as an opportunity. I set up study groups. I came up with more engaging ways to study (we had a cubby with a table and 2 white boards at my school - I literally set up games etc... which preparing for helped me study.)

    And, inevitably, when they knew that I was knocking their grades out of the water? The best thing happened.

    They came to ME for last minute help.

    Sounds annoying right? Sure.

    But here's the secret: they waited too long. They can ask me for help, but it will only help the smallest amount. what helping them go over things WILL do, however, is be a really thorough test of MY knowledge. Can I explain the concepts? can I make them understand?

    If I don't know something well enough to teach those peers who see me as a tutor... I don't know it well enough.

    And that's how I got a 4.0.

    So maybe roll with it a little. Maybe be a mentor. Maybe be willing to help.

    Maybe they'll do a little better than they would otherwise.

    You'll do a lot better, and you won't spend all your time stewing.

    I actually ended up having quite a good time in my prereqs, and it made me realize: I'm really smart, really dilligent, really hardworking, and I REALLY want this.

    Also: I'm really glad I'm not 18 anymore. It made me thankful and reflect on the ways I have grown.