Avoid "Karing with Kindess" CNA program

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This is a rant because I'm so mortified at some programs today. I looked into Karing With Kindness in, NJ and I warn you not to attend... I drive by their place all time so I figured I give them a call. I call and ask if I could have some info on their CNA program and the lady on the phone, I acted as if I interrupted her she told me "I have no idea, Xxxx isn't here and doesn't come back until Monday" and she hung up without saying anything else... It was Tuesday and although that left a sour taste in my mouth I called on Monday to speak to Xxxxx. A different lady picked up and told me Xxxxxx would be in on Tuesday at 10. So I call the next day, on my break at work around 12ish, "Xxxxx has gone home for the day, call tomorrow, she'll be here at 10"... I call Wednesday at exactly 10, the lady picks up and informs me that Xxxxx is there, but she's outside right now. She takes my name and number and tells me she'll have Xxxxx call me when she comes back in... Meanwhile, I'm thinking you have a potential student/customer here and you can't put me on hold and go get her for a minute, since she's probably just outside smoking or something!? I get a call back TWO AND A HALF hours later. Completely lacking the answers to anything I ask, I ask when I can come in for more info, she says "uhmm now I guess". I go only cause it's 2 minutes away from me. It's a very confusing place, I ask around for Xxxxx, and eventually someone says they'll get her. I begin asking her questions, about the costs, clinicals, schedule, ect and she starts texting on her cell phone!?!?!?!?! I left after that. I did learn that no one running the program is even an RN... This has got to be one of the most UNPROFESSIONAL places ever! If you're in South/Central New Jersey avoid this place!!!!!!Anyone know any decent CNA programs in Central Jersey?

*** Why is that scary? If you pass the test, thus proving you know the information you should. I became a nurse by challenging the NCLEX without having attending nursing school.

Stupid question.....you can challenge the NCLEX????

Stupid question.....you can challenge the NCLEX????

Was wondering the same thing. What did you do about your clinicals?

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.
Was wondering the same thing. What did you do about your clinicals?

In some states, you can challenge the NCLEX if you have former military medic experience.

Challenging the NCLEX used to be more common a decade or two ago. Standards might have also been looser then about who could challenge, I don't know?

I think being able to challenge the NCLEX is pretty much non-existent these days because boards have writ-in clauses stating that you have to hold a degree from an accredited school to take the NCLEX.

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.

Yes, I think it's quite rare to challenge the NCLEX now. I have met about 3 medics in the past few years who were attending nursing school despite having years of experience in the military.

Anyways, I'm sorry you had such a bad experience :-( Unfortunately I've heard of many horror stories like yours in my state too. I fortunately had a great experience with an independent CNA program. Your best bet is to check out your state board of nursing & see if they have a list of CNA programs in your state. That is how I located my program. Good luck with your decision :)

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Was wondering the same thing. What did you do about your clinicals?

*** Ah you know back in the day. Seriously I was an army medic with extensive field and hospital experience. I challenged the LVN NCLEX in California based on my medic training and experience.

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.
*** Ah you know back in the day. Seriously I was an army medic with extensive field and hospital experience. I challenged the LVN NCLEX in California based on my medic training and experience.

I hope this doesn't sound horrible awkward or out of place but I feel like your original comment...well...I don't know what your original comment was meant to say but you confused several people with it. And, while you did what you did, your experience actually has absolutely no current relevant experience either with the OP or with those who asked questions later.

Why did you even bring it up?

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

i hope this doesn't sound horrible awkward or out of place

*** it does to me.

but i feel like your original comment...well...i don't know what your original comment was meant to say but you confused several people with it.

*** i was responding to this comment:

[color=#ffff00]"in some states, north carolina being one, you don't have to have any education. you can challenge the test and if you pass, you are certified. scary huh?"

the point i was making is that there is nothing wrong with people challenging exams. if they pass they have proven they know the required information. it should be considered scary. how anyone became confused is a mystery to me.

and, while you did what you did, your experience actually has absolutely no current relevant experience either with the op or with those who asked questions later.

why did you even bring it up?

*** to make the point that we should not judge a person in the nursing field by how they obtained their position, what is important is their competence and compassion.

Specializes in Orthopedics, Rehab, LTC.
*** Why is that scary? If you pass the test, thus proving you know the information you should. I became a nurse by challenging the NCLEX without having attending nursing school.

It's just a little unnerving to me.

I just think back to when I took the NCELX... there was a lot of material that I learned/studied that wasn't ever covered during the exam, but as a nurse you're expected to know. I guess I'm reflecting more on the process of challenging the NCLEX, not trying to single you out specifically

Specializes in Adult/Ped Emergency and Trauma.

I learned something today, so I'm glad y'all talked about past routes to RN and LPN. I think that is so cool; that's a really neat piece of Nursing History that makes total sense!

Sprout here was thinking Diploma Nurses were the "alternative," which are awesome from all their hospital experience!Wow, I am glad you guys brought that up, we are diverse!

I hope this doesn't sound horrible awkward or out of place but I feel like your original comment...well...I don't know what your original comment was meant to say but you confused several people with it. And, while you did what you did, your experience actually has absolutely no current relevant experience either with the OP or with those who asked questions later.

Why did you even bring it up?

I am the one who took the thread off topic. PMFB-RN, you did not confuse me with your post, I was asking a question based on it. Thank you for answering it. Your post was much appreciated!

You are right DHG, it was irrelevant to the OP, for that OP I am sorry! :)

This is a rant because I’m so mortified at some programs today. I looked into Karing With Kindness in, NJ and I warn you not to attend… I drive by their place all time so I figured I give them a call. I call and ask if I could have some info on their CNA program and the lady on the phone, I acted as if I interrupted her she told me “I have no idea, Xxxx isn’t here and doesn’t come back until Monday” and she hung up without saying anything else… It was Tuesday and although that left a sour taste in my mouth I called on Monday to speak to Xxxxx. A different lady picked up and told me Xxxxxx would be in on Tuesday at 10. So I call the next day, on my break at work around 12ish, “Xxxxx has gone home for the day, call tomorrow, she’ll be here at 10”… I call Wednesday at exactly 10, the lady picks up and informs me that Xxxxx is there, but she’s outside right now. She takes my name and number and tells me she’ll have Xxxxx call me when she comes back in… Meanwhile, I’m thinking you have a potential student/customer here and you can’t put me on hold and go get her for a minute, since she’s probably just outside smoking or something!? I get a call back TWO AND A HALF hours later. Completely lacking the answers to anything I ask, I ask when I can come in for more info, she says “uhmm now I guess”. I go only cause it’s 2 minutes away from me. It’s a very confusing place, I ask around for Xxxxx, and eventually someone says they’ll get her. I begin asking her questions, about the costs, clinicals, schedule, ect and she starts texting on her cell phone!?!?!?!?! I left after that. I did learn that no one running the program is even an RN... This has got to be one of the most UNPROFESSIONAL places ever! If you’re in South/Central New Jersey avoid this place!!!!!!Anyone know any decent CNA programs in Central Jersey?

Everyone is entiled to thier own opinion BUTTT to sit back and make rumors and judge as if you have known facts about this company when really everyone just sounds like a bunch of high schoolers in the rumor mill... That doesnt seem very professional... So if you want to throw stones shouldnt live in a glass house... This company is privately owned so they do everything in thier power not to abuse people and "just take their money" that is why they are the lowest price in the county... Second every teacher is an RN and has been for many years... Every teacher has thier own teaching methods... If you do not like the teacher methods being used you should have reported it... They have an open door policy and things cannot be fix if they never get addressed or told to someone to fix... I'm sorry that they have treated you that way and if the owner was aware of that she would have fixed that IMMEDIATELY... So before you go and judge someone you should think of the impact you are creating... Everyone is human; and mistakes can be made I do not condone the behavior but you never know what was going on behind closed doors... So basically insulting a company just by YOUR OPINION isnt right...Someone has worked very hard on creating and the work that has been put in is not easy or else everyone would do it... you should take a good look at negativity that YOU have created and realize that YOU are not better than the woman on the phone....

Looks like someone working at Karing With Kindness googled the place and found this and made an account to defend herself.

Juuust saying, it's been almost a year since the last post before yours.

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