Jane Fitch MD, prior CRNA, now Anesthesiologist elected president ASA - page 7

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Game over people... ASA president... Jane Fitch. Thoughts?... Read More


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    Quote from jwk
    Direct observation doesn't require data to back it up. I've seen and been present and watched CRNA's lie under oath to legislative committees over a period of decades.
    Prove it, because you seem to be the only one saying this.
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    Is it me or are the pearls a bit much? What kind of picture is she trying to paint exactly ? I find that almost as offensive as her message. Women can't provide medical care without their baubles ? I hope the autoclave has a jewelry rack.
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    Quote from wtbcrna
    Prove it, because you seem to be the only one saying this.
    Perhaps it's because I'm the only AA here?

    It's really pointless to argue - nobody is changing anyone's mind here.
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    Quote from jwk
    Perhaps it's because I'm the only AA here?

    It's really pointless to argue - nobody is changing anyone's mind here.
    You have absolutely no proof so how do you expect to change anyone's mind?
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    Quote from wtbcrna
    You have absolutely no proof so how do you expect to change anyone's mind?
    Sorry I don't have a recording to upload for you - not that you'd believe it anyway.

    As I've said countless times - the hypocrisy is staggering. Some are apparently intelligent, objective, and open-minded enough to see that - and some aren't.
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    Quote from jwk
    Direct observation doesn't require data to back it up. I've seen and been present and watched CRNA's lie under oath to legislative committees over a period of decades.
    Lie about what?

    The ASA lies to paint CRNAs as substandard and dangerous providers….this being the basis of why we CRNAs should NEVER be allowed solo practice (when the real reason is they want the money of supervising)

    The AANA lies to……what?

    Are you saying we as CRNAs are really trying to say MDs are substandard or dangerous and shouldn't be allowed solo practice?

    I don't think so…..it has NEVER been said before a legislative committee (those statements are in the public record)….however the statements by the ASA are easily found doing internet searches.

    AANA statements of equal bias and "scare tactics" should be easily found doing internet searches too, don't you think?…..you know the ASA would be perfectly willing to show the AANAs hand at lying and scare tactics to the public….so it should be REALLY easy for you to "prove" this.

    There are countless examples of MD anesthesia providers causing harm through negligence and stupidity…..but these examples, that ALL medical providers are guilty of negligence and stupidity fall into the category of simple anecdotal evidence.

    And that's all you demonstrate…….anecdotes.

    And your assertion that "Direct observation doesn't require data to back it up" is a silly statement…..eye witnesses get deposed and cross examined all the time…many eye witness testimonies get thrown out or rejected by juries for the very simple reason that the "data doesn't back up" the "direct observation"

    I'm surprised you rest your whole case on such a silly statement.

    Cheers!
    Last edit by US Army MAJ,CRNA on Nov 9, '13
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    Quote from jwk
    Sorry I don't have a recording to upload for you - not that you'd believe it anyway.

    As I've said countless times - the hypocrisy is staggering. Some are apparently intelligent, objective, and open-minded enough to see that - and some aren't.
    You just need to admit it is nothing more than your opinion and move on.
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    Quote from wtbcrna

    You just need to admit it is nothing more than your opinion and move on.
    You guys just don't get it. If you have more experience then you do not have to provide proof. Your experience trumps all proof and data.
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    Quote from manusko
    You guys just don't get it. If you have more experience then you do not have to provide proof. Your experience trumps all proof and data.
    Oh, I get it…..I just thought someone of his intelligence knew the folly of providing anecdotes….

    Surely if the AANA was so nefarious as to lie, deceive or scare the public about other practitioners, it would be as easy to find as the ASAs examples to scare the public about CRNA practice.
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    The fact that CRNAs are available and utilized widely in ALL states and AAs are used in only a few states speaks volumes to me, another APN.

    The US military use of CRNA is legendary.

    Personally, I would trust any of the CRNAs I know with any anesthesia needed for myself or family.


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