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- May 14, '11 by superveronicayes you can take the NCLEX in the states if you have failed the CRNE 3 times. some states do not require you to show your registration. I wrote the CRNE and the NCLEX-RN. I have lic in Alberta and Alaska. try Alaska, you just send your transcripts. BUT the NCLEX is about a million times harder than the CRNE
- May 14, '11 by superveronicaAlaska, you don't need a Canadian Lic to write in Alaska
- Jun 1, '11 by night_caperAll you guys that say the CNO limit of three tries for the CRNE are deluded. The CNO is one of the most beuracratic, hodge-podge organizations on the planet. I have NO connection to nursing, this is my opinion, because I have dealt with them on other matters.
Exams test what you DON'T know, not what you know. Many individuals cannot handle a paper and pen exam, that does not mean they would be bad nurses, I guarantee it. All those BS formulas/math you learn in school, all that theory, garbage! That is what BOOKs are for, if you don't know it, look it up.
The CNO, like any standards association, should be looking for critical thinkers, and not "exam passers". A critical thinker, through mentorship, can learn anything. The exams should be done away with, and a mentorship avenue should be used instead. 3-4 year course, then 1-2 year(s) of mentorship based on your schooling results.
In a horribly executed manner, this is what the CNO is doing, by allowing RN failures to write the PN exam. It also always them to grab for revenue from the exam charges.
- The exam does test critical thinking, and the majority of people taking the exam pass it.
- Jun 1, '11 by Fiona59And CNO permitting failures to sit CPNRE is giving all LPNs a slap in the face.
- Jun 1, '11 by night_caper@fiona59: that is exactly what i meant, when i said "horribly executed manner", i hope you took it that way. it is a bad approach, and an insult to people, poorly executed.
@joanna73: i have to respectfully disagree. critical thinking is based on the evidence at hand, and what you think is the correct answer for this situation, not what someone else thinks, or what a "standard" says. this can only be determined at the time, not on some dreamed up scenario written out on paper. there is no best answer to critical thinking, but the cno likes to think there is.
"majority" of people passing is not good enough in my opinion, what happens if it was split 51 pass/49 fail? the cno, in my opinion, is a blocker to good healthcare, not an enabler. if the people can pass 4 years of schooling (and the schooling is properly monitored and scored), then the crne does nothing but add another layer of beuracracy.
anyone is certainly entitled to disagree with me, but i wanted to reassure the people who have "failed", that there are people out there, that think the current crne system is no longer relevant.
unfortunately, if you want to pass in this current "system", you will have to "learn" their way of thinking, if you agree with it out not.
- Yes I would agree that there is more than one answer. However, our nursing education is geared to taking that exam at the end. Basically, it's a game....their game, and we have to play by their rules. Debating that isn't going to change it. As I've said before though, if they fail the CRNE, they should not be allowed to write the LPN exam. Three tries is more than fair.
- And to clarify majority, Dee the pass rate is about 80 percent for the CRNE.
- Jun 1, '11 by CanadianGirl79I am an RPN who definitely finds it insulting that would-be RNs who fail the CRNE three times are permitted to sit our exam.
If someone can't pass the entry-to-practice exam for thier desired profession, then they should consider that perhaps that profession is not for them.
Failing the first time, sure...but the second time, you know what to expect...and if the person fails a second time, then IMHO they should give serious thought to doing some remedial course work or perhaps take a course on exam prep to help them overcome whatever obstacles keep preventing them from being successful at writing the exam.
If the person gets super nervous writing exams, they should talk to someone about controlling their anxiety,and perhaps get documentation from their Dr so the CNO can accomodate their anxiety, perhaps by allowing them extra time to write, or a private room, etc.
If, however, the person's nerves are fine, but they simply don't know the right answers, that says that their education was incomplete. Just MHO.Last edit by CanadianGirl79 on Jun 1, '11
- Jun 2, '11 by Dela RNIn the spirit of discussion, why is it so bad to allow those who fail the CRNE to take the CPNRE?
Do those who fail the CRNE 3 times usually pass the CPNRE?