To Filipino Nurses in NEW ZEALAND? Have questions please.. - page 15

Good day! :wavey: I am considering trying my luck as a nurse in New Zealand. Can anyone here help me and tell me what to expect in the 2-3months competency assessment? Is it really like... Read More

  1. by   april15
    thank you so much big heart!!!!

    yes, someone is helping me with my whole application including my accommodation..
    thanks for all the information, this will help a lot.
    and one more thing, do you know the uniform for the clinical placement? thanks..
    what can you say about working in a rest home? do you prefer working in a hospital rather than a rest home? thanks a lot!

    More power!:spin:
  2. by   big heart
    Hello april15 and Everyone,

    I didn't realised there was another question. Ok, for the uniform it's all white. White tops, white trousers, and white close type, comfortable shoes. I hope they haven't change. The best way is to ask that someone who has been helping you. Is he/she an agent?

    January is summer in NZ, but your in the east coast and it can get really cold even on summer. So bring warm clothings, something that you can placed over your uniform.

    What can I say about working in a resthome? I have also worked in an aged care facilities. Resthomes and private geriatric hospital, and even special unit caring for dementia, and other related mental illnesses of the elderly. It's a challenging area of nursing and it is an advantage if you have the opportunity to work.

    In my previous entry of this thread I mentioned about agents trying to get the nurses contracted to work in this resthomes. I personally feel that this shouldn't be happening, and that nurses have the freedom to move on and try other area if they want to, and not contracted to work for 2 years or so.

    I was just wondering if you're going to be working in resthome after you pass the CAP since you asked about my opinion working in the resthomes. Is the resthome paying for your CAP tuition and other expenses too? I'm just curious but you don't need to answer this.

    All the best and see you soon.
  3. by   april15
    hi big heart,

    Thank you very much!
    i have a friend who is working in a resthome in Auckland and she mentioned that their resthome can sponsor the CAP tuition and other expenses but you'll be working for them for 2 years (like what you mentioned).
    i am still deciding whether to take this option or not.
    I would want to hear your opinion regarding this matter.Thanks!

    a consultancy agency helped me with my whole application to the nursing council to the release of my visa. but with regards to getting a work in NZ after CAP, i'll be on my own.

    Again, thank you!
  4. by   big heart
    Hello april15 and to Everyone,

    I thought you said you're going for January intake for your CAP at EIT ? Are you being accepted at EIT but not enrolled yet? If you said you haven't decided if you'll take the free tuition for CAP(and contracted to worked for 2 years) then I think you haven't been enrolled. Which make sense why you ask about uniforms, how many are you in the class, and what to expect in this programme. But I still don't get it why you said you're leaving in January. Please clarify to me.

    But asking me if you'll take the contract of working in the resthome and they'll pay for your tuition fee and other expenses, I would say take it only if:

    1)you cannot pay for your tuition and other expenses.
    2)you work for them for one year, 40 hrs/week
    3)you get an annual pay not less than NZ$57,000.
    4)no agents fee deductable every pay.
    5) the contract is between you and the resthome not between an agent.
  5. by   april15
    Quote from big heart
    Hello april15 and to Everyone,

    I thought you said you're going for January intake for your CAP at EIT ? Are you being accepted at EIT but not enrolled yet? If you said you haven't decided if you'll take the free tuition for CAP(and contracted to worked for 2 years) then I think you haven't been enrolled. Which make sense why you ask about uniforms, how many are you in the class, and what to expect in this programme. But I still don't get it why you said you're leaving in January. Please clarify to me.

    But asking me if you'll take the contract of working in the resthome and they'll pay for your tuition fee and other expenses, I would say take it only if:

    1)you cannot pay for your tuition and other expenses.
    2)you work for them for one year, 40 hrs/week
    3)you get an annual pay not less than NZ$57,000.
    4)no agents fee deductable every pay.
    5) the contract is between you and the resthome not between an agent.
    hello big heart, thanks again! it's true that i am already enrolled at EIT. i was the one who paid for my tuition. but i can get a refund once i sign up with the resthome.
    thanks for everything!

    God bless!!!
  6. by   chelseaxyrene
    Quote from wishin4NZ
    to RN_05 - i sent you a PM

    to janet - after you have submitted all the necessary papers it usually takes about a month or two for the council to process your papers . they should have received the ff papers before they could start the processing

    1. IELTS results -- must be mailed by the testing center
    2. Transcript - must be mailed by your school
    3. PRC papers - must be verified and mailed by PRC
    4. birth certificate, and or marriage cert , passport and PRC board certificate- you must have it authenticated by malacanang , dfa , nz embassy and to be mailed by you.
    5. completed application form - must be mailed by you
    6. professional and character references - must be mailed by your referees

    just send me a PM if you have any questions tnx
    hi. i am new in this thread and I also don't know anything about the process in New Zealand. I would like to know about #4 the one that needs to be authenticated. Do I have to get it authenticated by DFA, Malacanang and NZ embassy or I just have to choose one from those 3?

    I have also read this part pertaining to IELTS... "This does not need to be achieved in a single sitting of the IELTS test, but can be gained over a succession of tests. The total of seven in each band must be achieved within 12 months of first sitting the test". Can anyone explain this? My understanding might be wrong. I just need some clarification. Thanks!
  7. by   chelseaxyrene
    What if you shifted from one course to another. Is it okay? I took Biology for 1 year and a half and shifted to nursing after wards. Thanks!
    Last edit by chelseaxyrene on Jan 1, '09
  8. by   cioman94
    Quote from xysy25
    hi. i am new in this thread and I also don't know anything about the process in New Zealand. I would like to know about #4 the one that needs to be authenticated. Do I have to get it authenticated by DFA, Malacanang and NZ embassy or I just have to choose one from those 3?

    I have also read this part pertaining to IELTS... "This does not need to be achieved in a single sitting of the IELTS test, but can be gained over a succession of tests. The total of seven in each band must be achieved within 12 months of first sitting the test". Can anyone explain this? My understanding might be wrong. I just need some clarification. Thanks!
    happy new year!

    "authenticated documents": first notarized, then send to DFA (its like red ribbon), then NZ manila embassy, no need to go through malacanang (previously you must, now dont)..

    ielts,,, if on june ielts you have 7 in 3 subjects and 6.5 in speaking subject, you are disqualified but you may qualify by taking exam on example september and if you have a score of 7 in speaking, then thats it! you submit the 2 ielts to NZ and they will see that overall you reached 7 in each of the 4 subjects although you made it via 2 exams..

    because you did not graduate in your BS Biology but instead shifted to Nursing, then you will qualify.. if you graduated in your BIOLOGY then studied Nursing for 3 years then you are disqualified.. i know its sounds xxxx, but that's how xxxx crap they look at 2nd coursers (like me, thats why im not qualified for nz)..
  9. by   big heart
    hello everyone and happy new year,

    . i believed that the documents you submitted to the ncnz are very important. also if your school of nursing presents your course outline/syllabus thoroughly - description of every subjects, dates, hours completed, and location of training/practice, then it would make a big difference. visit their website and look at the scope of practice for registered nurse and the section 12. all the best.

    thread edited to conform with the tos of this site.
    suzanne4
  10. by   penicillin8
    beware!!!

    do not go to any agency in the philippines or any agency from nz coming to the philippines and will promise you any or represent/use the name of middlemore hospital as their leading hospital to recruit nurses!

    as you all know, representatives from counties of manukau dhb (cmdhb), nz went to the philippines a couple of months ago and interviewed several pinoy nurses. it is a direct recruitment process!!! so, don't be fooled!

    &*^^%$%!!! the only tie up cmdhb has is with poea, check this, http://www.gmanews.tv/story/50991/nz...ruit-rp-nurses. filipino nurses here in nz have learned that some agencies are using the name of cmdhb, particularly middlemore hospital to lure naive nurses in the philippines. we are going to bloody stop these crocodiles but we cannot do this if you easily got swayed with their promises!

    remember, the nursing council is very strict now! immigration is very strict now as well as new prime minister and people are in the authority.

    again, i've been telling this ever since...you do not need agencies to come in new zealand!





    you are a bloody idiot if you fall as a prey when you are already warned beforehand!
  11. by   narsmeow
    Hi! Good day! Im also interested to work as nurse in nz however i got some difficulties on my way. id like to ask any advice on my case. im working as a nurse for almost 4 years now. passed nclex and ielts with band score of 7 in all categories which will expire on may 2009. went to an agency for nz july 2008 with so much promises but they just wasted my time and money because they just kept my papers inside their cabinet. i withdrew my application and went to another agency this jan 2009 desperately because i fear that my ielts would soon expire. they told me i will need about 300,000 pesos for this application, this new agency assisted me in my ncnz registration, i paid 15,000 pesos for initial payment, then 15,500 pesos for ncnz registration fee. later, my agent ask me if id like to work as healthcare assistant in nz while waiting for the result of my papers from the nursing council. He told me i will leave philippines with working visa as healthcare assistant.once i recieve the result fron ncnz ill take the competency course then shift as registered nurse. He told me then that the placement fee for working visa as healthcare assistant is 340,000. i feel uncomfortable with that and as i surf the net i discovered that i can go there in nz even without an agency. but i felt i needed the help of an agency because i thought it will take me longer if i go on my own considering that im losing time, for my ielts is near expiry. i dont have the luxury of time to look for a principal, a hospital that could sponsor me, worse i dont know where to start. then i asked my agent regarding the details of the 300,000 pesos. i asked if the plane ticket, the course fee, accommodation etc is already included. His answer is that 300,000 pesos is just for the placement fee. ive read some blogs and discovered other applicants just paid 180,000? this agency is legal, i checked their status in poea. now my job offer for healthcare assistant is coming very soon and he asked me if he should hold my application? He told me theres a penalty if i back out too late. now i dont know what to do. please anyone i need advice... thank you.
  12. by   chicano
    please be advised that the NZ embassy in Manila does not issue student visa to HCA student anymore. I have a friend whose student visa was denied. SOme of my classmates who went to NZ to study HCA/caregiving course about a year or two years ago, are now ready to go back to the Philippines since their work visa/permit as caregiver were not renewed by NZ immigration. They were told that the Essential Skills Policy is in effect, caregiving jobs should be given first to NZealanders, that is why their visas were not renewed.

    They were promised the same thing by their agency, the problem is some of them were denied by the ncnz, since they are 2nd coursers. And some of them took the IELTS in Nz and failed several times. Up to now they were not able to get the approval of the nursing council so they ended up working as caregivers for two years. Now they are going home na because they can not renew their work visa.

    I would not pay an agency 300k of my hard earned money just to look for work as a caregiver in NZ. Instead I will use that money for RN registration in NZ. IMHO. just my two cents

    goodluck
  13. by   suzanne4
    majority of countries are no longer issuing visas for healthcare providers or nursing assistants as they do not have shortages in this area.

    i do hope that others will read here and see what is going on.

    please do not give one peso to any agency to handle things for you. the fees will not pay for anything but go to their pockets only.

    and quite shameful as well.:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angr yfire

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