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Hello Everyone, So, I would like to thank Appetite for that enrty and to all the entries you have posted. I would also like to thank "tong2moca" for special mentioning me. THANK YOU. You are also the reason why I have to post this enrty. To everyone, hello again and hope you're all doing well. That we'll continue this thread and be able to help our fellow Filipino nurses and give them the right information. Big Heart

hello everyone and happy new year, . i believed that the documents you submitted to the ncnz are very important. also if your school of nursing presents your course outline/syllabus thoroughly - description of every subjects, dates, hours completed, and location of training/practice, then it would make a big difference. visit their website and look at the scope of practice for registered nurse and the section 12. all the best. thread edited to conform with the tos of this site. suzanne4

Hello april15 and to Everyone, I thought you said you're going for January intake for your CAP at EIT ? Are you being accepted at EIT but not enrolled yet? If you said you haven't decided if you'll take the free tuition for CAP(and contracted to worked for 2 years) then I think you haven't been enrolled. Which make sense why you ask about uniforms, how many are you in the class, and what to expect in this programme. But I still don't get it why you said you're leaving in January. Please clarify to me. But asking me if you'll take the contract of working in the resthome and they'll pay for your tuition fee and other expenses, I would say take it only if: 1)you cannot pay for your tuition and other expenses. 2)you work for them for one year, 40 hrs/week 3)you get an annual pay not less than NZ$57,000. 4)no agents fee deductable every pay. 5) the contract is between you and the resthome not between an agent.

Hello april15 and Everyone, I didn't realised there was another question. Ok, for the uniform it's all white. White tops, white trousers, and white close type, comfortable shoes. I hope they haven't change. The best way is to ask that someone who has been helping you. Is he/she an agent? January is summer in NZ, but your in the east coast and it can get really cold even on summer. So bring warm clothings, something that you can placed over your uniform. What can I say about working in a resthome? I have also worked in an aged care facilities. Resthomes and private geriatric hospital, and even special unit caring for dementia, and other related mental illnesses of the elderly. It's a challenging area of nursing and it is an advantage if you have the opportunity to work. In my previous entry of this thread I mentioned about agents trying to get the nurses contracted to work in this resthomes. I personally feel that this shouldn't be happening, and that nurses have the freedom to move on and try other area if they want to, and not contracted to work for 2 years or so. I was just wondering if you're going to be working in resthome after you pass the CAP since you asked about my opinion working in the resthomes. Is the resthome paying for your CAP tuition and other expenses too? I'm just curious but you don't need to answer this. All the best and see you soon.

Hello april15 and to everyone, First of all, CONGRATULATIONS that you're going to do your CAP and that you're being accepted at EIT(Hawkes Bay,NZ). Is there someone helping you with your whole application for your registration including school? Are you with an agent? Being scared and anxious are understandable, but being scared bec. you really don't know anything is another thing. Once you're accepted in the school for CAP, they will give you an offer of place, they will also give you the course info., then once you pay your tuition, they'll give you the receipt, and all sort of informations. You should also have a student ID for your reference. The school also offer accommodation (homestay or student accommodation) unless you've arranged one or someone arranged it for you. Nursing books or any references can be optional. They have really good libraries here and of course the internet. You can bring books if you want as long as you don't pay for excess luggage. How to pass the class? - just attend the class, listen, interact, respect, when in the clinical placement- always think safety and ask if you don't know. All the best and once again Congratulations.

Hello Everyone, In respond to the entry of our Moderator,suzzane4 All internationally qualified nurse applicants are required to have an educational qualification that is equivalent to a NZBN. In the Philippine, the 4 years BSN degree is equivalent to a level 7 NZBN according to the NZQA. NCNZ still assess each application individually. For the so called "second courser" the NCNZ would be looking the BSN transcript to ensure that there is evidence that the applicant has completed the equivalent subject and clinical hours that meet the requirements of a NZBN. Hence, NCNZ require the applicants a course outline/syllabus of the entire nursing programme. Thank you.

Hello susanhamburgerz, Of course you don't need an agency or anyone to process your application if you can do it yourself. I just mentioned that if anyone wants to use an agency (since a lot of Filipino still do) then a POEA approved is better. You can go back to them in case you're not satisfied with the whole processing of your application, you can report them to the proper authority. And in regards to the placement fee(or agency fee), under POEA regulations- a 1 month salary equivalent is the cost of their fee. This is to give the applicant/s an idea how much should they be paying to avoid these agency to charge enormously. Thank you for your comment, I guess this is one way to clarify my view. I do respect your opinion as well.

Hello once again, Another information I need to share, perhaps advise. Please do not take any offer from an agent or agency to come to NZ as a Health Care Assistant. Some agent offer Phil. Registered Nurses to come to NZ to study a short course, which is the HCA(healthcare assistant course). As mentioned on my previous entry, a course that only takes 3 months or less is possible on a Visitors Visa. Agent will enrol you to this courses and get you in NZ, they lure nurses that has an IELTS score below 7 (score that is not accepted with the NCNZ). NCNZ do not regulate HCA. Anyone can take this courses. The agent will tell these nurses to complete the course, there's job in NZ, take the IELTS in NZ if you wanted to continue your RN dream in NZ, then submit your application for registration as a nurse while you're in NZ. What if...what if you can not pass your IELTS test, what if the NCNZ decline your application bec of some reason. The pay for HCA is not that great, what if you have a family to feed back in the Phil., what if you have loan money for all the expenses to come to NZ, and lastly what if immigration NZ only give you one year work permit. Think about the cost living in NZ and at the same time supporting family back home. So my suggestion is, pass the required score for IELTS, work or gain some experience even a little( rather than nothing), ask your school to prepare a course outline/syllabus, be good to your work colleague (bec they're the one to give you your references),gather the necessary documents for application for registration to the NCNZ, and of course prepare financially. If you need an agency to process your application, then find one that is a POEA approved agency. Generally they should charge a what they call placement fee, which is equivalent approx. to a one month pay as a nurse in NZ. They will do the authentication of your documents, arrange your travel, communicate to NZ base agency(if there is one). in this way you can continue to work while your application is in the process. To everyone who wants to work in NZ, give it a go it's worth. Good luck.

Hello to oneproudigorot, Interesting you've ask me about second courser, bec that is my next info to share. OK, it's not about second courser. It's about your training as a nurse, knowledge, competence, post grad. experience, general safety, etc. As I have explained in my previous entry, NCNZ is aware of the growing no. of school of nursing in the Philippine. They don't really know who monitor our standard of teaching(specifically nursing). I can't explain further in this matter as it will cover a lot of areas. So, the NCNZ assess every applicant in an individualise basis. Refer on the application form of NCNZ, there is a specific part there that only applies for Philippine applicants and that is about authentication(red ribbon, stamps here and signatures there,etc)bec. of fake documents, now they require the school course outline/syllabus apart from the TOR and RLE. This is one way for them(NCNZ) to assess if the school(in the Phil) has taught the standard equivalence of the nursing school of NZ. Post Graduate experience is also important (even volunteer is good). This is the transition stage from student nurses to staff nurses. This is where they can perhaps assess your ability to work independently, confidence, decision making, trouble shooting, interaction with your own patient/s, etc. That's also why Prof reference is required. I'm not saying that a new grad is not accepted as I said they assess it individually. If you have all the gear then you're ready as they say. I'm not sure what you're doing now in terms of work, but I guess if you're interested to work in NZ, give it a go. All the best

Hello I'm back, In relation to Contracts and Free Tuition: Many agents out there, and they call themselves a lot of names(Agents, Agency, Consultancy, even travel agents,etc). The thing is, everyone makes a living and they do it in different ways(if you know what I'm saying). Some of them know what they're doing , some know little, and some thinks they knew everything , and some know nothing. First if you wanted someone to process your documents for application for registration in New Zealand as a nurse then I would suggest to go for a POEA approved agencies. Somewhere you can go back if things didn't work for you or if info was misleading. Please avoid Consultancy, they are suppose to be just consultants and not to deploy nurses. They are not POEA approved and they don't need to be bec they're consultancy business. Same thing with travel agency, they're suppose to be arranging your travel business not your registration as a nurse in New Zealand. So some of these agent/s find a way to lure nurses, something attractive. What they tell you is, that there's a job waiting for you in New Zealand, they/we pay for your tuition fee or even provide accommodation , or even pay for your air fare. Well for me this is great. As long as NCNZ ask me to do the CAP and I needed the money for tuition and everything and I even got a job, well this is really great. But what's the catch, well for the tuition fee, the agent will go to the outskirts of NZ and find a Resthome or Private Geriatric hospital(nothings wrong with resthomes and geriatrics) to sponsor or pay for your tuition. In return, you will be under contract(possibly 2years or more). You are isolated and I'm not sure about the condition of work or workplace. These resthome owners will agree bec they needed the staff desperately. Most staff work in the acute setting and progress better and are exposed to great learning opportunities(and better pay). What I've just told you are not told to Phil. nurses by the agent (why would they). The other scheme is agent get their cut by salary deduction from the nurses. So the agent then binds you a contract while you're in the Phil.that you will stay and work in the place that they asigned to you or otherwise you pay big time. Some tried to break the contract but no success. Agent always bring the nurses to these places bec the big hospitals in the city does not want to pay agents fee ( they do before, but try to avoid now). The big hospitals prefer individual nurses themselves to apply. No contracts even. I'm sure that you've heard about the CMDHB went to the Phil to direct hire. Well that's great too, they also pay the tuition and even airfare. They do direct hiring to avoid money making agents. But the problem was that most of the qualified candidates(bec of their good experience) they did not pass the IELTS. So the recruitement drive wasn't the best( they have successful once too). Take note the descision is still with the NCNZ. All the best for everyone.

Hello cioman94, I'd like to answer your question in many ways. First, given that you're holding a visitors permit(suggested in my previous entry as Visitors Visa) then either you convert it to a work permit or extend your visitors permit. If you have a work permit, you have to convert it to a work visa so you can travel back in the Phil. and when you're ready then you can use it to come back to NZ(as long as it's not expired). If you have an extended visitors permit, your stay in NZ is basically extended (and you're legal to stay) once you leave NZ, your visitors permit also expires. Which means you have to find a way to come back easy to NZ. Now, you can apply online to job vacancies in NZ. If the unit thinks that you are an asset to their department(with all your experience and reference check are excelent)then they can give you a job offer which is good bec you can use the job offer as a tool to apply for a work permit/visa to come to NZ. In regards to employment with only one year experience, I'm sure you can still get a job (global shortage of nurses) one year is better than nothing. The important thing is if the NCNZ will approve your qualification in the Phil and ask you to take the CAP. Once NCNZ is please to say that they're happy for you to take the CAP then thats you key for a bright future. Before I end this, I'd like to thank Brian(owner of allnurses.com) for giving me the opportunity to share my view/s, I'd like to thank the moderators too, and to you all who are a member of this site and participated in this forum. Also if I may, I'd like to tell everyone that I'm a nurse in NZ for 16 years now. The reason why I want everyone to know is that all info that I put in this site are all genuine. We have also help considerable no. of Phil nurses to come to NZ. Once again, thank you.

Hello again Everyone, More info? OK. So basically you need to apply for a Visitors Visa. Why? Bec. with Visitors Visa it is easy, cheaper (I guess), and you're allowed to study as long as the course is 3months or less in length. Now, once you're in NZ completing your CAP, during your placement which is in a two settings (one Age Care facility and one in an Acute Care facility). In the acute settings (usually in huge hospitals which is also the DHB District Health Board) most nurses also like working, this is also their chance to look around and decide where they feel like working (specific area). They can show interest or even submit an application to the unit/wards. Sometimes the unit/ward that they're doing their placement even offer them job once they completed their CAP. Now, once your CAP is completed, usually the school indicates that you've pass(no one fails anyway, unless you're really not worth). The school will now submit their assessment result to the NCNZ. The NCNZ is still the decision maker, and the reply takes a week or so, depending the no. of students. At the same time, you can now check your application and follow up with the unit. If you're accepted then they can give you a job offer (only after they confirm it from the NCNZ about your status, even the certificate is not posted yet to you). Your job offer is important so you can change your visitors visa to a working visa before it expires. Sometimes you have to extend your visitors visa pending NCNZ decision.(not often happens). Say you've got your approval from the NCNZ, and you have a working permit, you now apply for a practicing cert. with the NCNZ(it doesn't take long at all). And once you've got all of this, then a happy nurse working in NZ, the place to be. In my next info. I will discuss about the contracts and free tuition. So watch this space.

hello everyone, if you guys do really want to come and work in nz(even live here), that's great. before you can work as a rn, you must get registered within the nursing council of new zealand(ncnz). visit there website and download the application forms (the sit has all the info). once you completed the requirements then submit it including the processing fee. it is also an advantage if you have passed the ielts test (specific score for ncnz). before you will be waiting approx. 6 weeks or so before you get a reply. nowadays it take longer for the ncnz to reply(not just bec. of the huge no. of applicants) but also due to the fact that in the philippine there's also huge no. of school of nursing that's now operating. the ncnz is aware of this and they're so worried about the quality of the nurses. they now require apart from the transcript of record (tor), they wanted also the course outline/syllabus (or description of every subject in the whole nursing study). perhaps this will help them assess the equivalent of the nursing standard in nz school of nursing compared with the phil. so, if they're satisfied with the initial assessment then they will require you to take the cap, competency assessment programme. different school has different fees. to give you an idea about the cost: ncnz application fee/processing fee =nz$485 tuition fee (unitec nz)incl med/travel insurance =$3977.23 accommodation(12 weeks)approx =$1800 transport,approx =800 indemnity insurance = mrsa (lab test) =22 no one failed this cap. the theory component includes, nurse and the law in nz quality assurance ethics treaty of waitangi nursing informatics cultural safety regulations in nz preparation for clinical practice in regards to agents, the advantage is they will process for you while you're working in the phil, they will authenticate your documents, arrange your flight and liase with nz base agency who will liase with the ncnz find you school, accommodation, etc. and of course you can also do this if you're prepared to wait and follow up with the ncnz and find schools for you or even arrange accom. etc. jobs in nz is not a problem so if anyone of you hear and promise a job say thank you. you wont even get a job offer bec you're not even registered yet. anyway, i hope i have enlighten you guys about coming and work in nz. as per terms of service please do not post email or phone numbers for your own safety. if you want to exchange please use the pm system