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Good day! :wavey: I am considering trying my luck as a nurse in New Zealand. Can anyone here help me and tell me what to expect in the 2-3months competency assessment? Is it really like... Read More

  1. by   MeCebuano
    To all good-hearted and NZ-knowledgeable nurses ;-D :

    Hi! I am a Filipino nurse and I have been reading in some blog and forums that NZ nursing council and even hospitals have high preference for the 4-year nursing graduates versus that of second-coursers, of which I would say as "understandable". But I just want to clarify if this is really true. Is is there anyone who can enlighten me on this, please? Does this hold true to all places/city/county in New Zealand? How about between hospital and nursing homes, do they still have this preference? I really need to know this as I am planning to invest for NZ. My first degree was BSbiology, then I became a license Physician since 2000 and been practicing back then. I also recently graduated this year as nurse and also just got my RN license this year. My nursing studies took 3 years and we had legit duties in the hospital (just like what regular BSN students do). It wasn't a fly-by night school (pardon for the term). My diploma came from one of the big universities of my country. It was a program specifically designed for physicians who wants to have a degree as a nurse; and the program was accredited by Comm. Higher Educ., Prof. Regulatory Comm., and dept. of Educ.
    As you can see, it was a long and hard journey for me to get my RN. That is why I felt a little disappointed of learning that there are preference for 4-year regular grad. Is there still a hope for me in NZ?
  2. by   retsimnaeb
    Quote from MeCebuano
    To all good-hearted and NZ-knowledgeable nurses ;-D :

    Hi! I am a Filipino nurse and I have been reading in some blog and forums that NZ nursing council and even hospitals have high preference for the 4-year nursing graduates versus that of second-coursers, of which I would say as "understandable". But I just want to clarify if this is really true. Is is there anyone who can enlighten me on this, please? Does this hold true to all places/city/county in New Zealand? How about between hospital and nursing homes, do they still have this preference? I really need to know this as I am planning to invest for NZ. My first degree was BSbiology, then I became a license Physician since 2000 and been practicing back then. I also recently graduated this year as nurse and also just got my RN license this year. My nursing studies took 3 years and we had legit duties in the hospital (just like what regular BSN students do). It wasn't a fly-by night school (pardon for the term). My diploma came from one of the big universities of my country. It was a program specifically designed for physicians who wants to have a degree as a nurse; and the program was accredited by Comm. Higher Educ., Prof. Regulatory Comm., and dept. of Educ.
    As you can see, it was a long and hard journey for me to get my RN. That is why I felt a little disappointed of learning that there are preference for 4-year regular grad. Is there still a hope for me in NZ?

    sad to say it was the Nursing council of New Zealand who set the 4 yrs BSN degree requirement ...They are the regulatory body for all RN who wishes to work in New Zealand irregardless of the place / facility. Why dont you inquire with the NCNZ directly and explain to them your case. goodluck
  3. by   chiLL_ouT
    Quote from czarexroi
    your welcome!

    What is your specialty? where in Nz do you plan to have your CAP? I can give you the websites of those facilities you need..just don't believe those agents.. they are just interested in your money..Just apply directly to immigration if you want visa and to nursing council for your assessment. all the information you need are all in their website.all you need to do is read..if your looking for job apply directly please..they entertain application through internet or mail..

    thanks again.. i'm an IELTS passer and almost 2 yrs ER experience..
    my relatives said that wellington is a nice place and highly industrialized (???) .. am really not sure..
    honestly, i haven't consider a specific place in NZ.. any suggestions?
  4. by   czarexroi
    looking for facility to do your competency assessment programme?
    check this site http://www.scdhb.co.nz/index.php/employment/staff-development ...try to enquire.. this is were i had my cap 2 yrs ago. a lot cheaper from the other facilities and there is a big chance of getting employed after your cap. staff are very accommodating and helpful.
  5. by   czarexroi
    Quote from chill_out

    thanks again.. i'm an ielts passer and almost 2 yrs er experience..
    my relatives said that wellington is a nice place and highly industrialized (???) .. am really not sure..
    honestly, i haven't consider a specific place in nz.. any suggestions?
    wellington is a nice place. try to research, read more about the places here in new zealand to help you decide where to go.. check all the district health board of that place you choose. http://www.scdhb.co.nz/index.php/employment/staff-development check this site, they offer return to nursing programme also called competency assessment programme. training is recognise by ncnz. i got my cap training on this hospital.. a lot cheaper from the other facilities conducting cap.try to enquire.
  6. by   Barbie38
    Okey.. I am a second courser. :imbar
    I am a dentist but I also went to a good school, had my real experiences in a big hospital and had hands on on all the wards and special units. Sad to say, I could not pass the writing in IELTS even if I got 8 in all the other tasks. Have more than 3 yrs. experience..Had been to Saudi Arabia as a nurse
    I have three friends who were denied on the assessment approval. They had paid the assessment and all. I got two friends though who were not approved but are also second coursers.
    So, I think LUCK plays a part here. Now, I donnot have an agency if I have to continue in NZ. I have a friend in New Zealand who has a business in looking for a job for the nurses who passed the assessment. She looks for the place where you stay as you study and she helps you look for a nursing home or a hospital, after the CAP. You just need to pay her for the efforts done. aaan it does not add up to 100,000

    If you cannot pass the IELTS and you cannot pass the assessment, you may still go through an agency that makes you spend at least 400,000 and go to NZ as a health Aide.:zzzzz
    Then you can look for other jobs.
  7. by   gemini_star
    Quote from Barbie38
    I have three friends who were denied on the assessment approval. They had paid the assessment and all. I got two friends though who were not approved but are also second coursers. So, I think LUCK plays a part here.
    So all your friends who are second coursers were not approved? I don't think it's a thumb up for them.
  8. by   Aelith
    Just a tip: You can always try for Australia if you think you can't apply for NZ. At least they don't require you to have experience and those with experience especially 2 years and above have the chance to be registered without going through the Assessment program or the Bridging program. And honestly you don't need an agency to help you get to those countries.

    Just my
  9. by   czarexroi
    Quote from barbie38
    i have a friend in new zealand who [color=yellow]has a business in looking for a job for the nurses who passed the assessment. she looks for the place where you stay as you study and she helps you look for a nursing home or a hospital, after the cap. you just need to pay her for the efforts done. aaan it does not add up to 100,000
    [color=olive]above was an agents job description.

    ncnz have the list of all accredited facilities for cap, all you have to do is click the link and you already have the website..you can enquire, apply through internet and all communications can also be done through internet.. you can do all that on your own even with your accommodation and applying for a job.

    people!!! you don't need barbie38's friend to live and work here in nz:wink2:
  10. by   Barbie38
    Quote from czarexroi
    [color=olive]above was an agents job description.

    ncnz have the list of all accredited facilities for cap, all you have to do is click the link and you already have the website..you can enquire, apply through internet and all communications can also be done through internet.. you can do all that on your own even with your accommodation and applying for a job.

    people!!! you don't need barbie38's friend to live and work here in nz:wink2:
    i am not inviting or promoting that you to have to have my firend's style in applying for your job and live in new zealand...i am just telling you that you do not need to have an agency in the philippines. she does not need to have many many concerns for these too. she has another job and is stable.:d she is just trying to be of help.
    and you don't need to spend this 300,000 to 400,000 pesos just to have a job in new zealand. but frankly speaking..even if you look into the said websites,mentioned, you need to have someone still to follow up your papers there in nz school, pay for the ttuition fee and once you are there, who fetches you at the airport? will the school provide a place to live? will they tour you around and make you familiarize with the place?
    oh well...it is a matter of choice...............:zzzzz
  11. by   retsimnaeb
    Quote from Barbie38
    I am not inviting or promoting that you to have to have my firend's style in applying for your job and live in New Zealand...I am just telling you that YOU do NOT need to have an agency in the Philippines. She does not need to have many many concerns for these too. She has another job and is stable. She is just trying to be of help.
    And you don't need to spend this 300,000 to 400,000 pesos just to have a job in New Zealand. But frankly speaking..even if you look into the said websites,mentioned, you need to have someone still to follow up your papers there in NZ school, pay for the ttuition fee and once you are there, who fetches you at the airport? Will the school provide a place to live? Will they tour you around and make you familiarize with the place?
    Oh well...it is a matter of choice...............:zzzzz
    1. you can follow up your papers/application with NZ Cap providers. They are just an email away.
    2. you can pay your CAP fee via ANZ bank in Makati or thru your bank if you have a dolloar account.
    3. you can ask your CAP provider to arrange for a shuttle bus/ pick up service for you. All you have to do is pay 80nzd approximately
    4. you can ask your CAP provider to arrange for your accomodation in NZ. via hostel or homestay. (just pay a minimal booking fee)
    5. Some schools will provide a tour of the campus and the surrounding areas so that you could familiarize yourself.

    you are right. its a matter of choice
  12. by   ijarache
    I am a second courser. my letter of denial was dated June 3, 2008. I appealed my case. Luckily, the Nursing Council of New Zealand reconsidered my application. I think even if you are a second courser, if you will be able to convince the council that you really took up all the subjects in the nursing curriculum that is approved by CHED. I think there will be no problem. The approval rely on how you present your credentials. There are some schools who let other nurses graduate without really attending their classess. This is the reality. Unfortunately, those who studied hard and didn't do any "monkey bussiness" to finish nursing got affected. Goodluck to all second coursers!
  13. by   ijarache
    Quote from Barbie38
    Okey.. I am a second courser. :imbar
    I am a dentist but I also went to a good school, had my real experiences in a big hospital and had hands on on all the wards and special units. Sad to say, I could not pass the writing in IELTS even if I got 8 in all the other tasks. Have more than 3 yrs. experience..Had been to Saudi Arabia as a nurse
    I have three friends who were denied on the assessment approval. They had paid the assessment and all. I got two friends though who were not approved but are also second coursers.
    So, I think LUCK plays a part here. Now, I donnot have an agency if I have to continue in NZ. I have a friend in New Zealand who has a business in looking for a job for the nurses who passed the assessment. She looks for the place where you stay as you study and she helps you look for a nursing home or a hospital, after the CAP. You just need to pay her for the efforts done. aaan it does not add up to 100,000

    If you cannot pass the IELTS and you cannot pass the assessment, you may still go through an agency that makes you spend at least 400,000 and go to NZ as a health Aide.:zzzzz
    Then you can look for other jobs.

    I think New Zealand are now accepting 7 for each band even if you were able to get it from more than one exam. What I am saying is that you just need to retake IELTS, even if you will get zero in all other subtests and get 7 in writing (which is your only problem now), you will still be qualified to apply.

    Being a second courser is not an issue, for as long as you have really taken nursing from a reputable school, not from "other" schools that offer "crash course" nursing degree. I am also a dentist, got denied last june 3, appealed my case, now I am approved. You just have to present your credentials properly. You have to convince the council that you finished a true nursing degree, not just some hanky panky nursing degree from a school that just sprouted out from nowhere.

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