continental travel nurse - page 2
Hi I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the agency "continental travel nurse"? I recently applied to them and received a call back and was wondering if anyone knows anything about... Read More
0Mar 27, '12 by ericjameshealththanks for the much needed info, i forget, are you working with the angency yourself?
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0Mar 27, '12 by Silverdragon102, RN AdminNo I am a UKC now living and working in Canada. I have a few friends that live down south as I prefer the north and live an hour's train ride from London and have many people that live where they do that commute because it is a bit cheaper for housing but even there the houses are expensive and many are not able to afford mortgages on nurses wages as well as many other wages ie shop workers, resturant workers etc
0Aug 8, '12 by amccoan, BSNI have been looking to work with this company to. Do let us know how it goes! I think, coming from Canada that i would be taking a pay cut. How does it work for them setting you up with a job?Do you just finish the ONP, and then after the NMC says your good, they give you an assignment? The lady from the company tried to tell me that London was cheaper to live in than most cities, having been there and to quite a few other countries, i thought she was from another planet! Nevertheless, they are pretty helpful thus far. Do you have to pay them anything, or they just pay you less than the NHS and the NHS pays them. lol, sorry so many questions. But if anyone has answers that would be great! How long was your whole process from start to finish?
1Aug 8, '12 by Silverdragon102, RN AdminWhat a load of crock...... London is the most expensive place to live in in the UK
1Oct 20, '12 by trackvaulter01I just passed the IELTS and am starting the application process to work with them, I'll be looking to go in the summer of 2014 most likely after getting some more experience. I'm a bit curious about the housing arrangements and rent compared to the rate of pay as well. London is definitely an expensive place to live.
2Feb 4, '13 by mystifyingTo any of you out there looking at working for Continental Travel Nurse and wondering what it is like, then here it is from someone who worked with them for a good long while, and since my recent departure, I can now spill the beans. I plan on being vague on my personal details to protect myself. As you read further down you will understand why.
The recruiters- for the most part are horrible. They don't keep in touch with you, they don't follow up with you for new contracts. They don't send out contracts for you to sign prior to starting working. The longest I have heard of is 6 months from a fellow traveler. They blame the managers of the unit and claim they are the ones never getting back to them, when everything takes so long to sort out, eg working on their side of a new contract. But they turn around and blame the nurses to the managers saying that we are hard to get hold of, and we never respond to communications. Notice a common theme there, its every bodies fault but their own. Oh but you say, they have been great helping get me started. Of course they are they don't make money off of you until you come over and start working. If they treated the new recruits the same way as the old ones then they would never get any new people over.
On the note of recruiters you might even be so luck as to get the few that actually shout at you. They will ask for paperwork which you would or should have submitted in order to get your NMC and working visa, but back in Nov during an audit they were demanding all the paperwork from the nurses all over again, because surprise surprise they did not have their files in order.
Housing-Lets call the website false advertising. Upmarket housing is a joke! If you work an assignment in Oxford you live in the nurses dorms. I am sure a great deal of us have lived in dorms in university and enjoyed it, because we were young and carefree, but the older you get the less you want to be living in a dorm room with communal kitchen and bathrooms. If you don't get stuck in dorms then be prepared for a full house. Despite saying they have two or sometimes three bedroom flats, that is yet another bold face lie. Yes there a a lucky few that get to be in a two bedroom flat. There could be up to 4 people living there though because they will put two sets of couple in together. Most of the travelers I know live in 4 bedroom houses. Often there is a couple in the house, so generally I live with at least 3 other people.
Oh the housing issues continue, generally upmarket houses do not have bathtubs falling through the roof, ceilings collapsing, mold so extensive that the all travelers had to move out. Most of the problems are not so severe thank god, but there are always problems non the less. Fridges are smaller in the UK and there are usually 3-4 of you trying to get you stuff in. Stuff is generally always breaking down, the heaters have been a problem in many of the properties. The state of the properties run from in excellent condition, to needing some serious work, with run down carpets, highly marked wall, cracked tiles ect. Again if you state upmarket housing one thing I believe that includes is the interior in good condition.
Pay- Dependent upon where you are living the rate varies, but is much less than rates in North America, and more comparable to that of Australia or New Zealand. Money is not everything for sure, but make sure that you know what you are getting to financially before you come here. Taxes may be higher than your own country and cost of living is higher. They do try and paint a rosy picture of how much money you get here, but just do the calculations on your own. For example someone stated 700 pounds as travel money per year. That would be only if you did contracts back to back for the entire year. If you do an extension to your contract, and do this several times you might actually work another 13 weeks, however because they are extended to your original contract then you don't get more travel money.
Education fund- Oh yes there is an elusive education fund that a few of us have found out about, which they keep hush hush. Basically they have guidelines for what they will pay for in terms of mandatory education, which you pay for yourself, and they don't tell you about is, so they don't have to dip into their fund. Again with education, they don't pay you for your time. All nurses that give blood products were required to attend a blood transfusion course. Although we did not have to pay for the course, we also were not paid for our time for going.
If you are thinking of coming right now, then make sure you do your homework carefully!!!! The NMC is running audits and PIN numbers are taking longer than normal. There are nurses that have come over, completed the ONP which takes a month, and in that time you are not only not getting paid, you are also paying for a place to stay, but because of not getting the PIN they are not allowed to work as nurses. They are now working as health care aids, and because they are not working as nurses they are not provided nurses housing. Check in with the NMC to see if there will be delays and how long, because you could find yourself in a bad situation otherwise.
So why did I stay for so long you ask? There are many like me, we stay because despite the crap that goes on with housing, they do highly subsidize it, which makes living here more affordable. Which then allows us to do and travel, which is why most of us live here. My time here in the UK was amazing. They do have some excellent units that they place travelers on. Mine was no exception. I managed to get to a point where I could basically ignore Continental and deal with them on a very limited basis and go to work and do my job. So the good units but mostly the housing is what kept me with Continental. I could have worked with an agency, and made more money, however you then have to pay for your housing and you do not have the benefit of stable work. Ask anybody around, if another agency like this opened up that would spell the end for Continental, but because they are the one and only they have no competition and therefore no incentive to up their standards.
Hopefully now you can go with your eyes a bit more open!
1May 14, '13 by LahueristicHey mystifying:
I am working with CTN at the moment, and it does seem like I have to be the one to call the recruiter more often than she calls me. Also, she has asked for my immunization records three times... I find it unsettling that she could lose my paperwork electronically...
My biggest concern is the length of assignments. I am trying to move there to be with my fiancee and pet, and we would like to have some permanence so we can find our own housing and stay there for a year or two. You mentioned that CTN had mis-communication with the unit managers as far as renewing contracts? Can you explain this further? Is it possible to stay at a hospital that you like, or could you be 'uprooted' at the end of a contract for certain reasons?
I have asked my recruiter about it, but I couldn't get a straight answer. Thanks for your insight!
0Jun 15, '13 by DraganDragonautHey, all this info is very helpful. Ive been corresponing with continentaltravel nurse for a couple of weeks, Ive got my final paper from the NHS informing me that I need to do the 20 day ONP, im hoping to start in october. My biggest concern is how much is the average time that I have to wait between finishing the ONP and the first job? and is it easy to find carer or similar jobs in the meantime until the nursing starts? Beacuse if its over 6 weeks it seems difficult to execute financially. Any info on the waiting time will be much appreciated, thanks.
1Jul 27, '13 by MuppetAusI 100% agree with your comments. I find the disorganisation infuriating. Every single worker I have spoken to has had documents lost. They to me my first contract and I negotiated the next 3 in the same area myself.
I am still employed by them only for the simple fact that I have to be sponsored to work in the UK. I have applied for other jobs and been told I have the job subject to upper management approval because of the need to pay for a sponsorship certificate. Unfortunately because it cost a few thousand pounds management have said no and given me a tale about the economic state at present.
The money is a lot less than I was told I would get and like mystifying its the ability to travel Europe and UK, that keeps me here.
I've lived in the Oxford accom to and it's equal to uni dorm except this is worse because I'm near the front door and you know drunk people never close a door quietly.
If you don't need sponsorship there are one good agency's - Thorbury is the best wage paying one, pulse is well respected and NHSP.
1Sep 4, '13 by RN1286Hi, I wouldn't waste your time with CTN. After 1 year, countless hours and paperwork I had finally submitted everything to NMC and was "in decision" to finally receive my lisence. I heard from CTN after 2 months of them telling me it was "still in decision" after they told me a max of 6 weeks. They now were claiming that the NMC "didn't know what to the with the american RN's" and in order to decide what they wanted to do were going to need YET AGAIN more paperwork filled out and signed from my current empolyer and dean of my school where I would need to calculate "self-study hours". They then decided to slip in that this was in hopes of getting the 6-9 month nurse residency program down to 3 months. Woah woah, what a nurse residency program? Up until this point I was told that Once accepted my NMC I would be requires to take a 1 month healthcare course in London which I understood I would obviously not be paid during and would most likely need to find my own housing. They just now decided to tell me that in 2013 the NMC has changed their minds and decided that all foreign RN's will be required to complete a nurse residency/student nurse program that would last 6-9 months, during that time you will not be paid as a RN. Are you kidding me? After all I have submitted now they are telling me they're going to treat me as a student nurse before they will even give me me lisence and allow to practice. It's turly became a game and has gotten out of control. I was crushed when I heard the news that even if I submitted the further paperwork the I would need to have a minimum of 3 month residency program. The risks weren't worth the reward and I decided to not pursue after all I had done. It was a horrible expereince, poor communication. I would only plan on doing this if you were very seriously and planned to spend several years oversea with a lot of money saved up.
0Sep 5, '13 by RN1286Hi! I was wondering did you have to do the ONP program or act in a student nurse type role which they are requiring at the present time?
0Jan 5, '14 by jd222Why are they treating you as a student nurse? what degree level do you have if you dont mind me asking, as I know overseas many countries want at least a BSN.
1Jan 20, '14 by Jcb7438I wouldn't blame Continental Travel for all the delays and changes, that is entirely on the NMC, continental has no choice but to go along with all these changes as they are the legal requirement, and it's is the NMC that keeps delaying things. My wife is in the same boat, having begun the NMC registration process over a year ago and we are still waiting. I'm not saying Continental isn't unorganized and hard to communicate with, they are, but these changes are beyond their control. We've made an effort not to rely on them for our info but to check regularly with the NMC, both on the application status,and their policy changes. As it stands they are our best bet for a shot at getting to the UK, but we are going for an adventure and with our eyes wide open, definitively not for the pay!