5yrs

NurseJackie69 · Mar 20

Also, during your eval, were you given any tests such as the SASSI test or any questionnaires?

Healer555 · Mar 20

That's awful. I'm so sorry. I know of two people reported for alcohol use. One had not been drinking alcohol at all and the other was a social drinker but never at work . Alcohol is hard to disprove.

Some states are only 3 years if you'd consider moving.

NurseJackie69 · Mar 21

Too late to move now. She can move and she is STILL on the hook for the 5 years in the state that gave her 5 years EVEN IF the new state says 3 years. Trust me, it's been tried many times.

The opposite is also true. A person has a 3 year contract then moves and on occasion, the new state says 5 years total and they don't care what the old state says. I've seen nurses have 2 years into a 3 year contract and move. The new state says the nurse needs 5 years total and the nurse, who has already done 2 years in monitoring has to complete another 3 years in the new state to make it 5 years of proven sobriety.

Healer555 · Mar 21

NurseJackie69 said:

Too late to move now. She can move and she is STILL on the hook for the 5 years in the state that gave her 5 years EVEN IF the new state says 3 years. Trust me, it's been tried many times.

The opposite is also true. A person has a 3 year contract then moves and on occasion, the new state says 5 years total and they don't care what the old state says. I've seen nurses have 2 years into a 3 year contract and move. The new state says the nurse needs 5 years total and the nurse, who has already done 2 years in monitoring has to complete another 3 years in the new state to make it 5 years of proven sobriety.

Not true. I know several people who moved to 3 year states and that was all they needed to do.

PaNurse2023 · Mar 21

NurseJackie69 said:

Also, during your eval, were you given any tests such as the SASSI test or any questionnaires?

They did a cognitive test and personality test all which I passed they based their reccomendation off of past tests

NurseJackie69 · Mar 21

Healer555 said:

Not true. I know several people who moved to 3 year states and that was all they needed to do.

It's very true. I also know people who moved to 3 year states and it's all they had to do. I also know FAR MORE people who moved and were still on the hook for the 5 years. You are giving an example of the exception to the Rule and NOT the norm.

NurseJackie69 · Mar 21

Let's say you are under consent in Texas for 5 years and move to New Mexico which is a 3 year program (sometimes for alcohol).. Because you move tp New Mexico doesn't exempt you from the contract obligations with Texas that you signed and agreed to. If Texas has a 5 year program and you are still licensed there, it doesn't matter if you live in Japan or Russia, you are doing the 5 years with Texas. The overwhelming portion of nurses who try this end up doing the full time from the state they moved from, especially in 2025. Are there some that get through? Sure, but it's rare.

Your contract/consent order doesn't end in State A simply because you move to State B. If you move to state B, you are now simply under two consent orders. As of the past couple of years, it's also a given that if State A recommends 5 years, the new state (B) will also recommend 5 years, but even if they don't, State A isn't simply going to drop their requirements from 5 years to 3 years simply because the new state says 3 years. You are still licensed in the old state until thr consent order ends.

Healer555 · Mar 21

So it's different for different states

PaNurse2023 · Mar 21

NurseJackie69 said:

Im not looking for a way out just venting my frustration with their process and reasoning behind it all

NurseJackie69 · Mar 21

Healer555 said:

So it's different for different states

Jumping off a cliff at 40 feet compared to 100 feet is "different based on height," but the general consensus is, most people don't survive a 35 foot fall or 100 foot fall. Because its "different" doesnt change the majority or overehelming outcome. Some on occasion survive the 35 foot fall because it's "different". Fact is, the overwhelming majority of nurses who move from a 5 year monitoring state to a 3 year monitoring state are on the hook for the 5 years in the state they moved from, and because it's "different in different states" doesn't change that fact. It's very very RARE that someone will get a monitoring contract decreased from 5 to 3 years because they moved and BONs know this, otherwise everyone would be moving.

I've met 2 nurses that had monitoring reduced when they moved. That was in 2017 and 2019. I've met over 100 who have moved and they were still on the hook for the 5 years from the state they moved from and not only that, their situation ADDED stress because tout of those approximate 100 nurses, over 95% now found themselves with 2 consent orders/contracts instead of one.

NurseJackie69 · Mar 22

PaNurse2023 said:

Im not looking for a way out just venting my frustration with their process and reasoning behind it all

I feel bad for you and nothing wrong with looking for a way out because BONs and monitoring programs are corrupt. I just want to make sure you don't have Foolish information because 1 nurse says "she knows someone" who had monitoring reduced because they moved. Boy, is that powerful "research data" LOL. "I knew someone."

I don't want you to make a decision that many nurses have in trying to think that moving to a state with a 3 year monitoring program will reduce their previous 5 year requirement from the previous state, and they up and move their family, and the situation actually gets worse as they now have 2 consent orders and more stress and anxiety and life becomes more of a mess and This Is What Happens 95 percent of the time. The nurse, 95 plus percent of the time is still on the hook for 5 years. I know that You PaNurse are just venting and not talking or interested in moving and I'm not addressing you as much as I am for any nurse reading this board who might get Horrifically Bad information based on "a nurse that knew someone," and then the nurse acts on the false information and their life becomes more of a mess.

BONs aren't stupid. It's no longer 2005 or 2025. They KNOW that nurses will try and have tried to move from a 5 year state to a 3 year state and it's Exceptionally Rare that thr 5 year stste will relent or reduce their 5 year agreement. Did it happen some innthe past? Sure, it did, but in today's time, it's very very RARE.