You know it's going to be a bad visit when....

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....you open the door, and the odor of urine gags you.

Today, I got a resumption for a pt who is well known to me, from when I was her case manager 3 years ago. She was a problem then, and we still keep accepting her back on service. :rolleyes:

Anyway, one of the last times I admitted her, she was to get a PCA from Medicaid. She was unhappy with her present PCA company (different than us) and wanted a recommendation for a new one. I gave her one that was very reliable. She asked me to call for her, so I did, and she was to get a PCA the next day. They never showed, and she reported me to my sup, which fortunately I had documented the process very well, and my sup knows me better than to be a BSer when it comes to that.

Anyway, this young lady is IDDM, s/p old amputation W/C bound, but still cannot manage transfers from bed to W/C etc.. I was to do a second visit on her after the PCA complaint, but she didn't answer the phone, or door, and it was locked. I left a note and a message for her sister. I hadn't realized at that time...yet...how many times she fell. So then her sister called the agency to report me for not calling 911 or the guard station because she had been stuck in her BSC overnight. (She was so concerned I guess when she got my message she waited til the next day to check on her)

So, I get this pt today, and she doesn't answer the phone. Call the hospital, she is d/c. I called every emer contact, no answer, or machines, or they don't know if she is in her apartment. (Or care I suspect.) So, I go, and I speak to the guard at the station, and asked him if he would unlock the door if I couldn't get in, he said no problem. This woman already lied about me, so I hate the thought of entering her appt, then being accused of taking something. I go up, knock on her door, a neighbor say she's in the hospital. I explained they told me she was D/C (I know what you're thinking HIPPA, but it is the culture of the building to help each other.) He says try the door, if its unlocked, she's home. It's open.

The smell of urine is overpowering! I call out to her, and she says very quietly, Im in the bedroom on the floor.....she didn't mention in a puddle of urine so huge the entire floor was wet! Her housedress was dripping. She had no obvious injuries, so all I needed to do was get her up, but she is BIG, and I knew I couldn't do it myself. I called down to the guard, and asked if he is allowed to help me. He says he's not supposed to, but if it comes to calling 911, he will, turns out he's an off duty city cop, and he says I know how those guys hate getting called out for floor lifts. So the pt tells me to go next door to her neighbor I was speaking to in the hall. I do, and he very generously came over and we had a hell of a time getting her up. She couldn't get her butt onto the W/C the wet dress kept slipping off the plastic seat and she would keep sliding back, gently, to the floor. We get her super duper W/C, and it has brakes that are better, and we get her into the chair. I swear, It was such a strain to lift her, it's a good thing I had a panty liner on, because my own pants would have gotten soaked. Once in the W/C, which I had lined with a big towel, I gave her a wash cloth and basin, and she wasked herself up and I cleaned up the room as bet I could. Then we got her all dried up and re-dressed. All I can say is good thing I know her and it was a resumption, because I didn't have to do as intense of an assessment, I already know her social/CG situations etc... She had none of her meds in the home, and no way of getting them til Monday (her family will likely blame us for that too). She is pretty non-comliant anyway.

In the process of all the lifting, we had her in a close hold, and all of my clothes were moist with her urine. My shoes, and not just the bottoms, were wet. I mean, it was gross!!

It was my last visit, and I was going home to do paperwork anyway, so I walk into the house, my husband and dtr are in the kitchen, and I just start stripping naked. They looked at me like I was nuts, and were afraid to ask questions. I took my clothes to the washer, started it, and walked back up from the basement to the second floor shower buck naked, lol. that was a really loooooong hot shower! I didn't know what to do with my new leather shoes, but my dtr suggested clorox wipes. Thankfully, it didn't hurt the color, so I scrubbed them down with those, and no odor remains, thank goodness.

So, how was your day??

Specializes in Case Management, Home Health, UM.
Yeah nancy, you would think! But every time I complain about the agency taking back a pt they shouldn't, they turn around and blame me for opening a case if I thought it was unsafe. Intake accepts no responsibility for screening whatsoever! That is just so unbelieveable. I have worked intake in 2 other agencies and that is NOT how they operate. My agency literally is known for "taking anything." What they will never seem to understand is that if you accept a case, esp if you KNOW the person is a problem, then you are abandnoning them if the hospital was not given a opportunity to make other, safer, arrangements for her discharge.

I am sick of being the whipping girl. I'm done. At least for a while. I already work FT at my insurance company job, I'm tired, and I don't need this kind of stress over a PT job. It's just not worth it!!

I, like you, also work FT for an insurance company, and am seeing more and more instances of sloppy or non-existent discharge planning by hospitals and providers, which is contributing to the problem(s) you describe above. Sad, but true... :o

I just quit home care at the end of December 04 after about 5 years in the field, and I am so familiar with all that is posted here. However, I never did my oasis in the home - some of them I wanted to escape from as quickly as possible . I always make a copy of the current oasis before submitting it - and during the next certifying period, I document any changes in my note book, so that by the time i am ready to do the oasis again I can compare. Most of the oasis is basic anyway, and if you are following the client on a weekly basis, you know the changes.

It is a bad visit when the agency asks you to cover a case - SIMPLE WOUND CARE - you step into the house and this elderly client is hooked up to oxygen, nasogastric feed via a pump, is on a water mattress, has in a catheter, is barely conscious, has bedsores everywhere, and a crazy daughter as caregiver, who insists that her daddy does not need skilled care in a supervised setting- three hours later you emerge feeling so dirty you do not even want to step into your car or your house -Of course I called my coordinator ranting like a lunatic - her response was that the daughter was trained to do all of the above and the nurse was just to monitor that it was being done correctly - the daughter also did the dressing changes when the nurse was not there - we were going in 2-3 times weekly -SIMPLE WOUND CARE -

(This happened to a coworker) - it is 6 am and dark on a cold winter morning. You pull up in your SUV, and pull out your cell phone, and begin leafing through your address book to get your client's number. You hear a tap on your window and look up to see that your SUV is surrounded by men, one of whom is holding up a police badge and motioning for you to roll down your window. When you do so you are told to keep your hands away from your bag and to step out of your vehicle. You try explaining that you are a home care nurse - but to no avail - you are not allowed to go for your ID - Meanwhile your client who was looking out for you is upstairs yelling "that is my nurse. Are all of you crazy?" After the confusion you are allowed to go to your client - apparently they were on a drug bust and thought that you were the contact person. :rotfl:

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Claver had a similar experience.

It was my first experience with a Cancer patient that had several tumors size of grapefruits and a small watermelon on his back (forget type of CA). Patient was in denial about the amount of pain experienceing cause thought wouldn't be strong enough pain drug to treat him. Finally got PICC placed and IV morphine.

Wife of owner of house and best friend of Hospice patient needed to wear a key around her neck to the safe where Morphine cassette stored. IV team and I were concerned as always two other seedy guys sitting in the LR/Kitchen when we arrived. Just always visited btwn 9AM-3PM "safe time".

Pulled up at 9AM one day just as police removed the 2 other guys from home due to dope dealing....morphine cassette never touched! Next visit, Hospice patient and his female friend had moved into her old home as she realized couldn't save new husband!

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on a lighter note:

When the family accusses you of giving the patient "the black death pill" , no amount of persuasion that the IRON TABLET is perfecly safe, is to treat patients anemia and her strength will improve after a few weeks.

Better to get the iron pill w/stool softener ordered as comes in red or green shade!

....you open the door, and the odor of urine gags you.

Today, I got a resumption for a pt who is well known to me, from when I was her case manager 3 years ago. She was a problem then, and we still keep accepting her back on service. :rolleyes:

Anyway, one of the last times I admitted her, she was to get a PCA from Medicaid. She was unhappy with her present PCA company (different than us) and wanted a recommendation for a new one. I gave her one that was very reliable. She asked me to call for her, so I did, and she was to get a PCA the next day. They never showed, and she reported me to my sup, which fortunately I had documented the process very well, and my sup knows me better than to be a BSer when it comes to that.

Anyway, this young lady is IDDM, s/p old amputation W/C bound, but still cannot manage transfers from bed to W/C etc.. I was to do a second visit on her after the PCA complaint, but she didn't answer the phone, or door, and it was locked. I left a note and a message for her sister. I hadn't realized at that time...yet...how many times she fell. So then her sister called the agency to report me for not calling 911 or the guard station because she had been stuck in her BSC overnight. (She was so concerned I guess when she got my message she waited til the next day to check on her)

So, I get this pt today, and she doesn't answer the phone. Call the hospital, she is d/c. I called every emer contact, no answer, or machines, or they don't know if she is in her apartment. (Or care I suspect.) So, I go, and I speak to the guard at the station, and asked him if he would unlock the door if I couldn't get in, he said no problem. This woman already lied about me, so I hate the thought of entering her appt, then being accused of taking something. I go up, knock on her door, a neighbor say she's in the hospital. I explained they told me she was D/C (I know what you're thinking HIPPA, but it is the culture of the building to help each other.) He says try the door, if its unlocked, she's home. It's open.

The smell of urine is overpowering! I call out to her, and she says very quietly, Im in the bedroom on the floor.....she didn't mention in a puddle of urine so huge the entire floor was wet! Her housedress was dripping. She had no obvious injuries, so all I needed to do was get her up, but she is BIG, and I knew I couldn't do it myself. I called down to the guard, and asked if he is allowed to help me. He says he's not supposed to, but if it comes to calling 911, he will, turns out he's an off duty city cop, and he says I know how those guys hate getting called out for floor lifts. So the pt tells me to go next door to her neighbor I was speaking to in the hall. I do, and he very generously came over and we had a hell of a time getting her up. She couldn't get her butt onto the W/C the wet dress kept slipping off the plastic seat and she would keep sliding back, gently, to the floor. We get her super duper W/C, and it has brakes that are better, and we get her into the chair. I swear, It was such a strain to lift her, it's a good thing I had a panty liner on, because my own pants would have gotten soaked. Once in the W/C, which I had lined with a big towel, I gave her a wash cloth and basin, and she wasked herself up and I cleaned up the room as bet I could. Then we got her all dried up and re-dressed. All I can say is good thing I know her and it was a resumption, because I didn't have to do as intense of an assessment, I already know her social/CG situations etc... She had none of her meds in the home, and no way of getting them til Monday (her family will likely blame us for that too). She is pretty non-comliant anyway.

In the process of all the lifting, we had her in a close hold, and all of my clothes were moist with her urine. My shoes, and not just the bottoms, were wet. I mean, it was gross!!

It was my last visit, and I was going home to do paperwork anyway, so I walk into the house, my husband and dtr are in the kitchen, and I just start stripping naked. They looked at me like I was nuts, and were afraid to ask questions. I took my clothes to the washer, started it, and walked back up from the basement to the second floor shower buck naked, lol. that was a really loooooong hot shower! I didn't know what to do with my new leather shoes, but my dtr suggested clorox wipes. Thankfully, it didn't hurt the color, so I scrubbed them down with those, and no odor remains, thank goodness.

So, how was your day??

GOD BLESS YOU! you are a better nurse than i.......... this is a prime example why i will never ever do adult nursing.............ever...... all kidding aside, i commend you, and i envy you. I am an RN, and i cant find a job i like because i will not do this kind of stuff.....

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