You Don't Have to Be a Stereotype

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So, based on some recent discussions, here is

what is knocking around in my head:

I really, really hate that a certain "type" is drawn to certain areas

of nursing

Here's what I mean: I am in OB (finally!) Have always wanted to be here.

Eventually, I would like to be a IBCLC.

Personally, I'm a baby-wearing-co-sleeping still breastfeeding my 3 year old,

attempted to have a natural birth at a birth center (didn't work out, maybe

next time) user of some complementary therapies type of gal.

I am vegetarian who avoids processed foods, soda, etc.

I am also a strong believer in evidence based practice, use of scientific

evidence, pro-vaccine, pro-all types of Western medicine that shows good

outcomes

It drives me absolutely batty that so many anti-vax anti-science types think

they can just come to an area such as OB and be fine. After all, doesn't being

in OB or lactation mean you can just disregard science and evidence based

practices?

NO! NO NO NO!

You can be a multi-faceted person; a nurse who uses science- (that includes

some complementary therapies) AND is open to new ideas. It is not black and

white. You don't have only believe in one or the other.

If a patient has trouble urinating in the immediate post-partum period, I

always try peppermint oil first- wanna know why? There has been a good amount

of science based research showing that it works- and I have seen good outcomes

with it.

I will not, however tell a pt they can fix their hypothyroidism with simple

diet changes and they should ditch that evil pharmaceutical synthroid (not only

is it outside my scope, there is not enough evidence to support this)

Anyone else experience and understand what I am getting at?

You're right, it is outside your scope if it's something that you choose not to research. I did however "cure" my hyperthyroidism(Graves) by changing to a organic, minimally processed whole foods diet 20 years ago, liquid kelp and yoga practice. Docs wanted to remove part of my thyroid and place me on meds for the rest of my life! Hah! I walked out of the docs office at age 22 and never went back. Thyroid levels have been normal for the past 10 years, no more Graves. I just had a healthy pregnancy in 2013.

There is a place for natural medicine, but if you have no experience you would be best not to comment.

I'm assuming this is directed towards me?

If you are assuming I am against natural medicine, you are mistaken.

I simply stated treating something without a doctor's order is outside of a nurses' scope. As I said, in my facility, we don't use peppermint oil and the doctors do not order it, so if I, myself were to give it in my facility, it would be out of my scope. Given my experience with treating postpartum patients having trouble voiding, I had not heard of using peppermint oil, hence the scope of practice bit.

However, just researching something does not automatically make it in your scope of practice. I could research anything but that doesn't mean I have the scope to practice it. And that stands for anyone no matter their experience with natural medicine or anything else.

If you re-read, I said I had researched and had not found anything stated it helped with voiding, but asked for the posters information on where s/he learned that peppermint oil had helped with postpartum voiding. Although I am not filled with experience on natural medicine, I am open to using alternative medicine as opposed to western medicine if the same or better outcomes are achieved with minimal risks.

Asking for information should be encouraged by yourself to better educate more people on the uses of natural medicine, if you feel so strongly about the practices. Your comments suggest you feel otherwise, and if I have no experience I should just move on and not ask questions. That is really hindering the expansion of natural medicine.

It's not unknown at all. Peppermint oil decreases milk supply and should be avoided if breastfeeding. It's also a toxic nasal and chest irritant to infants.

So please, can you direct me to where you found this information (i.e. research article) so I CAN have more experience/knowledge of natural medicine.

Or should I just not comment?

Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.
You're right, it is outside your scope if it's something that you choose not to research. I did however "cure" my hyperthyroidism(Graves) by changing to a organic, minimally processed whole foods diet 20 years ago, liquid kelp and yoga practice. Docs wanted to remove part of my thyroid and place me on meds for the rest of my life! Hah! I walked out of the docs office at age 22 and never went back. Thyroid levels have been normal for the past 10 years, no more Graves. I just had a healthy pregnancy in 2013.

There is a place for natural medicine, but if you have no experience you would be best not to comment.

And as I said above "I will not, however tell a pt they can fix their hypothyroidism with simple

diet changes and they should ditch that evil pharmaceutical synthroid (not only

is it outside my scope, there is not enough evidence to support this)

Peppermint | University of Maryland Medical Center

also the book

[h=1] Essential Oil Safety: A Guide for Health Care Professionals-

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I happen to use essential oils regularly, by the way. I also happen to understand that not all volatile oils are created equally and EOs should be used with extreme respect and caution, especially around children.

Just received the latest issue of National Geographic in my mailbox today. Very interesting cover-article about the "War on Science" and how we need to quit tolerating blatantly unscientific beliefs in professional environments. The Anti-Vax people were mentioned along side those who refute evolution or deny climate change. Pick it up of you see it at the check lanes.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=war+on+science+national+geographic&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fleftbrainrightbrain.co.uk%2F2015%2F02%2F19%2Fnational-geographic-the-war-on-science-includes-discussion-of-vaccines-and-autism%2F&ei=jkvuVK2ZKcv5yQTurYCwDA&bvm=bv.86956481,d.aWw&psig=AFQjCNFVWbKwlVXS4piln9DNSBdbEM7ntw&ust=1424989449126834

Peppermint | University of Maryland Medical Center

also the book

[h=1] Essential Oil Safety: A Guide for Health Care Professionals-

[/h]

I happen to use essential oils regularly, by the way. I also happen to understand that not all volatile oils are created equally and EOs should be used with extreme respect and caution, especially around children.

Well neither of these really answer or give credit to your claims about peppermint oil... I am not going to read the book but the link you provided didn't say anything about peppermint oil helping one void nor did it say anything about breastfeeding... So idk what those were for...

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