Would your teacher have failed your IV piggyback for this?

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We have a teacher who failed a student for the following. Our CPE sheet has a certain number of things that must be verbalized and/or done. The student checked the MD order in the chart, did the 5 rights on the pt. Ensured the correct amount of medication in the bag. The student setup the pump correctly(rate/min, volume to be infused, volume infused, etc). The student primed the tubing correctly and then went to flush the pt.'s IV after wiping with alcohol. But the student had forgotten to bring a saline flush into the room. So the teacher immediately says,"oh my god, you failed. move over i'll do it." and then the teacher almost forgets to flush the line herself until the PATIENT says,"hey you're supposed to flush that first!". this teacher is known for chewing out students and aiming to make them feel inferior or incompetent. she talks about them to the nurses and other students...and if you ask any question to her, she just walks away. or if you show any sign of being unsure, she walks away. we've been checked off on IV insertions, etc. But anytime an IV comes up, she says,"oh NO, you guys have no clue how to do that, blah blah blah". But would any of you have been failed for forgetting to bring a flush with you, even though you verbalized it and hit EVERY point on the CPE sheet? I'm not one to ever complain about a teacher, I've always thought it was the students making it sound worse than it is, but not in this case. In our med/surg class for example, only 15 ppl out of 130 passed the first test. And since then, I've heard nothing but excuses about her. I've been within 2 questions of an A on both her tests, because it's really not the teachers fault, the students just don't know how to think critically. But still, would you have been failed for the forgotten flush?

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We have a teacher who failed a student for the following. Our CPE sheet has a certain number of things that must be verbalized and/or done. The student checked the MD order in the chart, did the 5 rights on the pt. Ensured the correct amount of medication in the bag. The student setup the pump correctly(rate/min, volume to be infused, volume infused, etc). The student primed the tubing correctly and then went to flush the pt.'s IV after wiping with alcohol. But the student had forgotten to bring a saline flush into the room. So the teacher immediately says,"oh my god, you failed. move over i'll do it." and then the teacher almost forgets to flush the line herself until the PATIENT says,"hey you're supposed to flush that first!". this teacher is known for chewing out students and aiming to make them feel inferior or incompetent. she talks about them to the nurses and other students...and if you ask any question to her, she just walks away. or if you show any sign of being unsure, she walks away. we've been checked off on IV insertions, etc. But anytime an IV comes up, she says,"oh NO, you guys have no clue how to do that, blah blah blah". But would any of you have been failed for forgetting to bring a flush with you, even though you verbalized it and hit EVERY point on the CPE sheet? I'm not one to ever complain about a teacher, I've always thought it was the students making it sound worse than it is, but not in this case. In our med/surg class for example, only 15 ppl out of 130 passed the first test. And since then, I've heard nothing but excuses about her. I've been within 2 questions of an A on both her tests, because it's really not the teachers fault, the students just don't know how to think critically. But still, would you have been failed for the forgotten flush?

I am really disappointed with this Teacher who is fighting fiercely to be recognized. Poor student. This is why I am in a private institution; I am spending lots of money and so I do have a voice.

well now the truth came out. the student was me, and i like gettin stuff right to the fullest. and she told me she likes givin me a hard time to get me to do better. and it works to an extent, i used to be a little slow with meds, now i'm done 30 minutes early. but sometimes it goes too far, like with the IV. she told me today she really passed me but wanted me to think i need to improve so that i would get better. there's other ways to do it. and today she was bein all nice, she still snapped at some ppl who didnt know like INR or PT when they're givin coumadin. or didnt look how fast to push lasix. but still, i don't think thats very nice.

We have a teacher who failed a student for the following. Our CPE sheet has a certain number of things that must be verbalized and/or done. The student checked the MD order in the chart, did the 5 rights on the pt. Ensured the correct amount of medication in the bag. The student setup the pump correctly(rate/min, volume to be infused, volume infused, etc). The student primed the tubing correctly and then went to flush the pt.'s IV after wiping with alcohol. But the student had forgotten to bring a saline flush into the room. So the teacher immediately says,"oh my god, you failed. move over i'll do it." and then the teacher almost forgets to flush the line herself until the PATIENT says,"hey you're supposed to flush that first!". this teacher is known for chewing out students and aiming to make them feel inferior or incompetent. she talks about them to the nurses and other students...and if you ask any question to her, she just walks away. or if you show any sign of being unsure, she walks away. we've been checked off on IV insertions, etc. But anytime an IV comes up, she says,"oh NO, you guys have no clue how to do that, blah blah blah". But would any of you have been failed for forgetting to bring a flush with you, even though you verbalized it and hit EVERY point on the CPE sheet? I'm not one to ever complain about a teacher, I've always thought it was the students making it sound worse than it is, but not in this case. In our med/surg class for example, only 15 ppl out of 130 passed the first test. And since then, I've heard nothing but excuses about her. I've been within 2 questions of an A on both her tests, because it's really not the teachers fault, the students just don't know how to think critically. But still, would you have been failed for the forgotten flush?

No my instructors would not have had that response to a student forgetting to bring the saline in the room. They would have been far more discreet.

What concerns me the most though is the fact that your instructor said "OMG move over you failed" in front of a patient. Is she stupid or crazy? You don't say things like "you failed" or "so and so forgot" in front of patients and that goes for teachers as well as students.

It's unprofessional and it could create distrust from a patient. I am a nursing student but I would be very uncomfortable if I were that patient with the conversation that took place in that room.

15 out of 130 people passing is not good odds. I would like to know if most people missed the same questions. In our school when there is a pattern of most of the class missing the same questions, that test is revaluated by several instructors and they come to a consensus and start throwing out questions. They also backtrack that lecture and the corresponding powerpoint slides they used to see if something was skipped entirely or if there is a discrepancy between the books we are using and the test bank the instructors get their questions and answers from.

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