Working in Ireland without agency

irishicugal · Jul 11, 2016

Where are you based? You can apply directly to HSE at publicjobs.ie but you need your registration with NMBI first. Is there a reason you don't want to use an agency? They would make your journey a lot easier!

Lee_Ryan · Jul 11, 2016

Hi irishicugal, thanks for your response. I am in Finland, so if everything goes well, I should be able to get automatic recognition from the NMBI. I just thought about trying to get things done by myself. What about you? Do you mind sharing the agency's name you used?

Lee

irishicugal · Jul 11, 2016

I'm from Ireland and trained here so I didn't use one [emoji3] you should be fine and because you trained in the EU then getting registered should be easy enough. In terms of finding employment, particularly with HSE, you need to be here in person if you are doing it yourself. There are some private hospitals that do Skype interviews but HSE don't. An agency such as Kate Cowhig (name of the agency not the person that runs it, so hope I'm not violating TOS) or CPL can organise interview and placement etc without you having to come over but I really don't know if they have a branch in Finland! Also, the HSE are notoriously slow, you could apply for a job in January, interview in March, get interview results in April, then 4-6 months to process all the paperwork and you might start work in August or September!! If you find an agency to do all that with it just might work out a little bit easier lol, and the agency won't charge you, they bill the HSE. There also is no need for pay negotiations, you are paid based on how many years working experience you have, and we are all on the same scale.

My advice would be to get registered with NMBI, as that can take a while. Then look online for HSE posts in your chosen area and apply online. You may have to fly over for your interview though! Then you can stay living and working in Finland until you get all the paperwork sorted with your new job. So it is possible to do it by yourself, but may be easier with an agency, at no extra cost to you. Best of luck to you â˜˜â˜˜â˜˜

Lee_Ryan · Jul 11, 2016

Irishicugal, thank you soo much!! You gave new perspective for me to consider about. Best wishes for you :)))

nurse_cardio · Jul 25, 2016

Wow lots of Information there @irishicugal!

I am also hoping to work in Ireland soon. Waiting for an employer's interview as well as all of my documents have been received by NMBI since last week. I have a friend who's coming there to work in North Dublin by October and it sure looks great.

May I ask what are the advantages and disadvantages of working with HSE compared to private hospitals?

Thanks a lot!!

irishicugal · Jul 25, 2016

Wow lots of Information there @irishicugal!
I am also hoping to work in Ireland soon. Waiting for an employer's interview as well as all of my documents have been received by NMBI since last week. I have a friend who's coming there to work in North Dublin by October and it sure looks great.
May I ask what are the advantages and disadvantages of working with HSE compared to private hospitals?
Thanks a lot!!

Hey there!

So many pros/cons with both systems, I'll tell you what I know of either...

Private healthcare is the closest to the American system. They are starting to develop ED's but they are only open certain hours and result in very few admissions - maybe the odd orthopaedic case or cellulitis - never a major trauma or MI. The majority of admissions are elective, straightforward surgery. Some private hospitals have ICU for things like cardiothoracic surgery but usually if you're sick sick you will be transferred to a public hospital. There are no interns or residents, if you want anything there is maybe one hospitalist around or else you phone the consultant for an order. This can be scary if there is a code! In private healthcare there tends to be a smaller nurse patient ratio and all the charting is done on computers. The pay is slightly less in private but the benefits are greater - pension contribution and health insurance etc. Many private hospitals in Ireland are offering a relocation bonus at the moment and will assist with housing etc.

The HSE is the public system. There is a set salary pay scale depending on experience. However there are no benefits such as health insurance. The workload is bigger, and the patients are sicker, but you have much more support in terms of nearby staff and also with further education. There are always doctors on call of all levels of expertise, so if something something happens then the right backup is there. All charting is on paper and takes forever... Also things are SLOW! It could take 6 months to get paperwork processed for a job and once you start you mightn't have things organised such as computer access etc.

With both systems, we are experiencing a huge nursing shortage and this can be frustrating. On night duty you can have up to 14 patients and share a CNA with another nurse. If you need to do an adaptation course (some countries require it) then you will be in a HSE hospital for 6 weeks, so you can experience it then, even if you are heading for a private hospital.

Hope that helps!!

nurse_cardio · Jul 26, 2016

Irishicugal,

Thanks a lot for the valuable information!! That surely helps. I'm getting stoked actually of the possibility of working there in the future. It seems that it is more advantageous now to work in Private Hospitals than in HSEs..which I really like as my upcoming interview will be with a Private Hospital.

OakRNland, BSN · Aug 5, 2017

DO your reccommend one agency over another? I've just turned in my nmbi request for application form and paid for my application to come, I haven't decided if I'm going to do it alone or designate an agency. I am quite the go getter and don't like the thought of not being able to call the NMBI about my application and leaving it up to an agency, unless the agency has a good reputation for advocating for its applicants. Do you reccomend any?