Summer quarter was my first semester in US school (college). I was really surprise that everybody hides their grades. Even students who get A!!!
Professors say that grades are between them and students.
One day, when guys form Japan had started to show their grades to each other, teacher told that they can't do it because it is a secret...
Math class I had with US citizens only, and every each other were hiding their grades.
I have to admit... it was silly for me. If you know grades other students you know who you can ask for help. In the other hand, I respect that because this is different country, different culture.
I know that maybe some lazy students can be ashamed of their grades. But if you work hard and something went wrong on a test their is nothing to be ashamed of.
Can you explain it to me? Maybe this is silly question but it really bothers me
And it is not just me. I saw that even international student are really surprised with those rules :)
I consider my grades to be private, whether I get 100% or 60%. I don't see any good that can come out of sharing grades with others. Why bother contributing to the likely drama? KWIM? My motto is pretty much worry about my own grades and let others worry about their own.
I kind of see it like this, sometimes it's frustrating. It's not only lazy students that got 60's or 70's on tests. In my bio class one time, about everyone but maybe four students got below an 80 on the lab pratical that we had. Mostly everyone in the class had studied hard because it was full of pre-nursing and pre-pharmacy students. Now this one guy is absolutely the biggest class clown ever, always has smart remarks and everything. He was the only one that got over a 90 and he didn't want to help anyone else study because he just didn't want to. Now the fact that he got 90's while a majority of the class struggled did cause some tension because let's be honest, not everyone wants to help and sometimes people like knowing they got higher than everyone else.
Consider another situation of there only being one or two people in the class who passed or one or two people in the class who failed and how awkward it would be to know that. Now my friends and I use to tell eachother our grades all the time because we didn't mind but sometimes if they were bad we just said "I didn't pass" "I barely passed" or "I did really well". In my school pharmacy is the most competitive program, more competitive than nursing and they would even start crying if they got below a 70 on a test because they needed A's and B's and there are times where it doesn't seem right to share grades against someone's will.
IDK. In my school grades were posted for everyone to see. On your scantron sheet you had to come up with a secret code that would be associated with your name. When grades were posted, you'd find yur code and your grade would be next to it. That way you could see where u stood with the class, and you didn't have to wait until exam review to know your grade.
I understand the prof. on not wanting to have the class share their individual grades. It can create animosity between peers. Case in point...I am a smart cookie (not the smartest though) who bores easily with class...has been an issue my entire life. I still make decent grades, but not the best cuz of it. I am generally not interested in grades and never revealed my grades in school. But during the 1st week of my 2nd year in NS, people were whispering and staring at me. Then on a class break, someone yells out "ok...how can we get some of your mojo?" People were trying to figure out how I was still in nsg school! Even more people were trying to figure out how the hell I knew what the instructor was talking about and odd tidbits that weren't text related. It made them more upset that I wouln't ever tell them my grades or join study groups....Some people (like me) simply don't know how to study and do worse in groups...N-e how, people show animosity for grades, good, bad, or indifferent. Same went for those few who'd get 98% and then argue for the extra 2 points! And sometimes when you tell them your grade, they don't believe you, and others lie to look good...If 8 ppl say they got an 86, but there are only 5 86s posted, someone's definitely lying!!
I didn't read through the answers you got but here's my
As for the prof, I've not heard of the professor not allowing the students to
share their test results amongst one another. HE himself will not give anyone
else's grade out. That is private between you and him.
Me, personally, I do not share my grades with anyone. There's all kinds of drama
anyways about grades and I for one do not fuel the fire. I am in school for ME and no one else. Again, if someone should make a lower grade than me I wouldn't want them feeling bad. I do try to think of others. On the other hand you have those that think they're THE smartest and will blurt out loud their grades. I think it's personal, but that's just me.
I had an intructor who would pass back our tests and say "I'm passing out the A's first. So-and-so had the highest score. Now I will pass out the B tests; there were only 5 of those. I have 8 C tests that I'm passing out. Okay, now I'll pass out the rest of the tests." When she did that, you pretty much knew who got what. A lot of my classmates didn't like that and thought the instructor was being demeaning. But I kind of agree with Yennifer that it would be awkward doing a group project with classmates who don't have the same study habits as yours.
yennifer, i agree with you because i come from the same educational system. now, i have to find out who get the highest scores in my class :hehe:. as you said, it is different educational system, so we have to suck it up.
A teacher telling students not to compare their scores would make me suspicious that something (such as unfair grading practices) was being hidden.
Until this last semester I would not have thought that a non-equitable grading practice would be very likely, but I was shocked when my Algebra II instructor pulled me aside before the middle of the semester and stated that I was in the top 5% among his five classes of students. He said that he knew that it was probably overwhelming taking on all of the sciences as a returning student (52 years old), so I should know that I would be receiving an 'A' from him, ...just show up for classes and do a few of the homework problems if I want to.
I was shocked.
I thanked him for his offer, but told him that I wanted to really learn this subject, and that I would be doing all of the assignments and taking his tests.
...it did relieve some stress knowing that I shouldn't be too worried about at least this one class.
I'm sure each college has their own rules but for me, it's not so much of a privacy issue - it's more of an issue with other people about my grade. I have very high standards for myself, and when I score a 78 on an exam which I studied for hours I don't want to hear that I will do better next time, or what am I complaining about I passed, class average was a 74 so you should be happy ... comments like these irk me b/c I for one do not want to get by with Cs ... I want to get As. So for me that's why I don't share my grades.
Until this last semester I would not have thought that a non-equitable grading practice would be very likely, but I was shocked when my Algebra II instructor pulled me aside before the middle of the semester and stated that I was in the top 5% among his five classes of students. He said that he knew that it was probably overwhelming taking on all of the sciences as a returning student (52 years old), so I should know that I would be receiving an 'A' from him, ...just show up for classes and do a few of the homework problems if I want to.
I was shocked.
I thanked him for his offer, but told him that I wanted to really learn this subject, and that I would be doing all of the assignments and taking his tests.
...it did relieve some stress knowing that I shouldn't be too worried about at least this one class.
WOW. Really? I never would imagine this kind of stuff happens. I would think that professors would have a fear of being caught and losing their job.
WOW. Really? I never would imagine this kind of stuff happens. I would think that professors would have a fear of being caught and losing their job.
Likewise here... I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
There is little chance of a tenured professor being terminated though... They have to do something that is absolutely unforgivable in the view of academia: such as joining the National Rifle Association, supporting the Right-to-Life movement, and subscribing to the Sean Hannity news letter!
I know in my school, if you were doing that good, the final was made optional for some students. Because you already had a high enough average that even if you failed the final, you'd still pass the class. In other classes, you didn't need to finish the final, just get like a 40% on it to maintain your grade. I know that sounds crazy, but I haven't heard of students being told they didn't really have to show up or do work prior to finals.
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I consider my grades to be private, whether I get 100% or 60%. I don't see any good that can come out of sharing grades with others. Why bother contributing to the likely drama? KWIM? My motto is pretty much worry about my own grades and let others worry about their own.