Why I am not Surprised by Joy Behar's Ignorant Comments

Joy Behar of The View may have well-informed opinions on many topics, but her views on nursing are downright ignorant. It isn’t surprising that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about where nurses are concerned because most of the public doesn’t know, either. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

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In case you missed it, a "comedian" on the talk television show The View has some very misguided notions about what it takes to be a nurse. Joy Behar, long-time member of the all women panel on the social commentary show, made her ignorance about nurses very clear with some of the comments she made regarding the profession.

It all started with the very brave actions of Miss Colorado in the Miss America Pageant. The contestant appeared on the show during the talent section dressed in work scrubs with a stethoscope around her neck. She explained how her talent was for nursing, helping people, and caring for others when they are at their worst.

Being fashionably feminist, Behar and the other women on the panel are against pageants, but that is an opinion for another site. She began mocking Miss Colorado saying that she was wearing a "doctor's stethoscope" and was dressed in a "nurse's costume." Her comments showed no respect for the profession and what we do on a day to day basis. The next day, after much public backlash, Behar "apologized" by saying that she was only making fun of the pageant and the comments against nurses were only jokes.

Nurses have been outraged all across the internet, and rightly so. In fact, a Facebook group called "Show Me Your Stethoscope" has over 600,000 members and hundreds of stethoscope selfies in just the few days since the comments.

Although Behar's comments are surprising, what is not is her ignorance. As a nurse, I am not surprised that someone in the spotlight knows very little of what nurses actually do. In fact, I was not aware of it until I put on those scrubs and slung a stethoscope around my neck. No one knows what it is like to be in those shoes, enduring the soaring rush of saving a life and the devastating blow of losing a patient.

Traditionally, nurses are seen as doctor's secretaries, and this fueled Behar's comments. Of course a nurse wouldn't need a stethoscope: she -- always a she -- would only need a clipboard to take notes for the doctor. It doesn't occur to the media or the public that nurses are just as involved in hard core medicine as doctors are. As I've always said, give me a nurse with 20 years experience over an intern any day.

I believe that this ignorance arises from how nurses are portrayed in the media. When the public thinks of nurses, they think of Florence Nightingale. Nursing has changed considerably since then! What other nurses can stand up as role models, though, that could inform the public of the very serious work done by nurses?

Take entertainment. Nurse Jackie, though well known among nurses, has a cult following. She isn't exactly a role model, either. Another nurse show that aired on TNT didn't earn enough ratings, even though it still didn't show nurses in their true light. Grey's Anatomy and House focused so much on the lives of the doctors that they never showed what nurses do.

And that's the problem. No one knows what nurses do because no one has shown them. What Behar said was deplorable, ignorant, misinformed, and uneducated, but not surprising. A media talking head would have no idea what goes on in the trenches of a nursing shift. How could they? No one has told them and no one has shown them.

More education is needed for the general public about what nurses do. We don't just pass pills. We don't just take orders from the doctor. We don't just wipe behinds. We listen to lung sounds. We assess if someone is dying. We make the call whether to call the doctor or not. We are at the bedside for eight to 12 hours, and we see more of the patient than the doctor ever will. We are the thin white line that exists to protect and serve the patients who need us.

Nursing skills matter.

Fire away at Behar and get the media's attention. Eradicate this ignorance, but don't be surprised. Don't think they should know better. Nurses are misrepresented in nearly every sphere. It just took one supposedly funny person's ignorant comments to cast light on that fact.

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It gives me the motivation to EDUCATE the public about our profession! STAT! :laugh:

There is also Scrubs.. I watched only 2 episodes, but their portrayal of Nurses was spot on.

Do any of you remember the show,China Beach, with the actress, Dana Delaney? It was a good show and did a good job of portraying nurses.

There was a, "Reunion" , show done a couple of years later that was also good.

The reunion show focused on the group going to the Vietnam Memorial Wall. She had wanted to look up a soldier that she took care of. He had internal injuries that were inoperable. He had on shock trousers to keep his BP up, but they had to take it off, and he was going to die from blood loss when the did. He asked her what it was like to die. He made her promise that she would always remember him.

Well when they got to the Wall she could not remember his name. The show goes on with everyones issues, etc, and they were all leaving the next day. She wakes up the last night there, reaches for the note pad and pen on the night stand, and writes something down. The next morning she goes back to the Wall, with the name of the soldier that she finally remembered, and finds his name.

She takes an old coffee cup taped over, and opened it up. It contained sand from China Beach that she had taken as a souvenir. She opened it up and poured it on the ground under the soldier's name. You can see that this was her closure. Women suffered from PTSD just like the men but it has not been as widely spoken about, or recognized.

Several years ago, I attended military school on Battlefield Nursing. One of the speakers was an Retired Army nurse who had served Vietnam. She had the opportunity meet Dana Delaney at a nurses conference. She said the Dana Delaney had a sincere desire to portray the nurses in a positive light. But the actress had to do what the producers wanted.

The army nurse said that even though the portrayal of the army nurses was right on, she disliked all of the sleeping around that was in the TV show. She acknowledged that social mores were changing, but that the feelings were that, "nice girls didn't" .

This was one of the better shows that featured nurses it has been down hill since then.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN, (ret)

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No they won't. Get the word out. It needs to occur off these pages, however.

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Standardethics said:
No they won't. Get the word out. It needs to occur off these pages, however.

Why is that?

icuRNmaggie said:
Why is that?

because the only people who come here for the most part are nurses, and we already know how hard we work and why we deserve respect. it's other people/organizations/society in general that needs to value our profession more.

(sorry, i'm not who you were asking; just my thoughts.)

Those of us in the allied health fields also throw our support to #nursesunite ! Those of us who are respiratory therapists, physical therapists, radiologic technologists, just to name a few....yes, and the MDs too...see nurses as our colleagues. We see what they do, and we work together as a team...and it's one that is valuable. NO ONE appreciates nurses more than we do....well, except maybe our patients!! I will say that THE VIEW has basically insulted the entire team of health care. I think a valuable lesson is coming through our comments. THANK you for YOUR comments!

It's true. Even I, before entering nursing school had no idea the level of responsibility I was embarking upon. On one hand it's wonderful, and on the other it's super scary!

I also believe the public confuses RNs with support staff and their roles.

I have to ask this.

How many people commenting here actually watched the pageant in its entirety or just watched the minute clip?

Someone commented that I have a dislike for pageants and the answer to that is yes. It still represents young women in a stereotyped sex role of 40 years ago. This young lady's talent was definitely not the typical but yet in a lot of ways it was. I remember the words of a few contestants in the 60s and 70s who said "I want to be a nurse...or a housewife". They got their points and probably never went on to nursing school.

This young lady has been on Johnson and Johnson's payroll by sponsorship and scholarships for at least two years so it was only reasonable they show support for her by pulling their account from the View temporarily.

Take the time to learn more about someone than just a minute clip which has also appeared in various stages of editing. This young lady is a new grad RN. She has been working the pageants and Hollywood stars, not nursing, for the past 3 years. Her earlier interviews before this pageant show that. She's playing a role now and lucky for her, nurses gave her the big push to where she will never have to know the pleasures of working as a bedside nurse. She is what many on this forum have ranted on as a title only nurse. I say good for her to have found her fame and fortune by cashing in on the remarks of ONE person and a huge group who played right into it. You can also GOOGLE the words "nurse and stethoscope" and see what other markets are cashing in on the notoriety.

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heinz57 said:
I have to ask this.

How many people commenting here actually watched the pageant in its entirety or just watched the minute clip?

Someone commented that I have a dislike for pageants and the answer to that is yes. It still represents young women in a stereotyped sex role of 40 years ago. This young lady's talent was definitely not the typical but yet in a lot of ways it was. I remember the words of a few contestants in the 60s and 70s who said "I want to be a nurse...or a housewife". They got their points and probably never went on to nursing school.

This young lady has been on Johnson and Johnson's payroll by sponsorship and scholarships for at least two years so it was only reasonable they show support for her by pulling their account from the View temporarily.

Take the time to learn more about someone than just a minute clip which has also appeared in various stages of editing. This young lady is a new grad RN. She has been working the pageants and Hollywood stars, not nursing, for the past 3 years. Her earlier interviews before this pageant show that. She's playing a role now and lucky for her, nurses gave her the big push to where she will never have to know the pleasures of working as a bedside nurse. She is what many on this forum have ranted on as a title only nurse. I say good for her to have found her fame and fortune by cashing in on the remarks of ONE person and a huge group who played right into it. You can also GOOGLE the words "nurse and stethoscope" and see what other markets are cashing in on the notoriety.

Ok, I can't be quiet. I just read an interview. Yes she did pageants but she is ALSO a nurse. Unless you provide sources this sounds like sour grapes.