Why aren't there better incentives for obtaining a BSN degree?

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PMFB-RN, RN

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Consider yourselves lucky, that there are on line programs for those who are going back from RN to BSN. When I went back to school to earn my BSN, I was a diploma graduate. No one had computers in 1981.

*** I am curious why you are seeking to prevent others from following the exact same path into RN practice you took?

CuriousMe

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The whole point of BSN only entry to practice for RNs is to exclude as many men and other non-traditional types of people from the field of nursing as possible as far as I can see.

Well no one told my admissions team....they've messed up entirely by admitting a class that is in the majority non-traditional students and men.

Hmmm...should I report them to the proper authorities?

PMFB-RN, RN

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
i made the statement from your comment "i didn't spend much time looking into rn to bsn programs."

if you mistated and you did spend time researching rn to bsn programs, then i stand corrected.

i didn't research schools, but programs and what each curriculum entailed. you could be right that all bsn programs would only present basic information you already knew....

*** i didn't spend much time looking into rn to bsn programs. when i was looking for an education for my first bachelors degree i very carefully picked the school.

i received both my bachelors degrees from the same university.

PMFB-RN, RN

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Well no one told my admissions team....they've messed up entirely by admitting a class that is in the majority non-traditional students and men.quote]

*** Well they won't be able to exclude them all from every school in every class.

CuriousMe

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*** I didn't spend much time looking into RN to BSN programs. When I was looking for an education for my first bachelors degree I very carefully picked the school.

I received both my bachelors degrees from the same university.

Then my comment stands, we have a different approach to education. I research programs, looking at the curriculum, before deciding where to apply.

CuriousMe

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Well they won't be able to exclude them all from every school in every class.

Especially as they would have had to exclude >70% of the class at an incredibly competitive program.

Or....the idea that requiring more education as entry to practice is a means to discriminate non-traditional students or men is a ridiculous idea.

Have you seen the number of accelerated BSN programs for folks who have another degree already? Are you under the impression that the folks applying for these programs are female, traditional college students?

PMFB-RN, RN

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Then my comment stands, we have a different approach to education. I research programs, looking at the curriculum, before deciding where to apply.

*** No, we took the same path when we were LOOKING FOR AN EDUCATION. When that was what I was looking for I was picky about the school I attended. When I want to get my BSN I was just looking to get a BSN, not an education, I was ALREADY educated. After talking to many RN to BSN grads and looking into a couple different BSN programs I realized that there wasn't going to be much to actually learn.

Fribblet

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The whole point of BSN only entry to practice for RNs is to exclude as many men and other non-traditional types of people from the field of nursing as possible as far as I can see.

This is absurd.

CuriousMe

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*** No, we took the same path when we were LOOKING FOR AN EDUCATION. When that was what I was looking for I was picky about the school I attended. When I want to get my BSN I was just looking to get a BSN, not an education, I was ALREADY educated. After talking to many RN to BSN grads and looking into a couple different BSN programs I realized that there wasn't going to be much to actually learn.

As I said, I wasn't looking for a degree, but for an education and you may be right in that there isn't anything you could have learned in a BSN program elsewhere.

I get it, you decided ahead of time there wasn't any educational value in an RN-BSN program. I've never gone in to an educational experience with that perspective. I always assume that I can learn from a situation.

So, as I said, we approach education differently. You can keep trying to say we don't, but each of your posts just reinforces that we do.

I wish you the best in your endeavors.

Specializes in ICU.

When I finish my ADN, I will be eligible for a MSN without ever acquiring a BSN.

I'm kinda stoked about that.

PMFB-RN, RN

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Especially as they would have had to exclude >70% of the class at an incredibly competitive program.

Or....the idea that requiring more education as entry to practice is a means to discriminate non-traditional students or men is a ridiculous idea.

Have you seen the number of accelerated BSN programs for folks who have another degree already? Are you under the impression that the folks applying for these programs are female, traditional college students?

*** I know that the community college is the path the RN practice taken by the vast majority of men I know in nursing.

You are right about the accelerated BSN programs. They do tend to bring in many men and other non-traditional types of students.

Fribblet

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*** I know that the community college is the path the RN practice taken by the vast majority of men I know in nursing.

You are right about the accelerated BSN programs. They do tend to bring in many men and other non-traditional types of students.

Your experience is the opposite of mine.

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