Which profession is higher?Nurse or Midwife?

[agrj]

Hi, I'm a new member of this org. I got interested to join because I'm so disgusted with how we (in my workplace)are being treated in terms of our job description. I'm working in middle east country. This is my second employment abroad,unfortunately I was assigned in this hospital,during my first 2 yrs,the management was fine but when we got a new Nursing Manager,the nursing environment was totally changed. Although he has a good impression on me but I care for my other colleagues who don't have the voice to open up any concerns. Although, I have vented on him about his attitude towards a certain Charge Midwife whom he is putting into a shift supervisory position. They are of same nationality and obviously He is in favor of those staff of his same nationality. Although til now they don't have anything against me so far but I feel so frustrating to be supervised by a midwife..!!! She is so bossy and sees herself as if someone excellent. She will visit the ward to check our checklist if updated or not,expired meds,proper waste disposal but she will not bother to see the condition and case of the patients. If she sees something like IVF without label,improper waste disposal or an undated item checklist she would report everything to the NM without warning the concerned staff on duty. In this way she is being liked by our NM, hence she is being kept in the post but she doesn't deserve actually the post because she is so rude.She wants to get informed if the staff will go to the bathroom,pharmacy or take our meal.I haven't had any encounter with her yet because she's not coming to visit the ward if I'm on duty because she told me that she trust and believe in my work but I still don't like her.She even argued with most of our Specialist doctors. Our NM liked her because according to him that's how supervisor work in Jordan. Isn't it a nursing profession is higher than a midwifery job?Unless you got a nurse-midwife title..I tried to find reference that would help me with my question but I failed to find,would you guys share your opinion or reference to me? Thanks..looking forward for more replies..God bless

[blackbird singing]

Isn't it a nursing profession is higher than a midwifery job?Unless you got a nurse-midwife title.

Well, there are 3 different kinds of midwives:

1) CNM = certified nurse midwives. These primarily practice in the hospital (96% and the rest in birth centers or at home), and in fact these and CMs are the only ones allowed to practice in the hospital. They get an undergraduate degree in nursing and then proceed to get a masters in nurse-midwifery. So, yes, the nurse-midwifery profession is higher than the nurse.

2) CM = certified midwives. Only certified in a handful of states. They complete the same graduate level coursework as CNMs, but without the prior nursing degree. So yes, these are also higher than the RN/LPNs.

3) CPM/DEM/LM = certified professional midwife, direct entry midwife, licensed midwife. These are not legal in every state, and it varies between states which of the previous is even used. The CPM title is a nationally awarded by North American Registry of Midwives (NARM) and deliver at home or in birth centers. You will not see these at the hospital unless something has gone wrong. They are educated mostly via apprenticeship and self-learning.

Hope this helps. But the short answer to your question is: I'm sorry, here in the US, the nursing profession is not higher than the midwifery job.

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things because it sounds like she has been given legitimate authority by someone in the organization with the power to grant it. Suck it up and make nice, or look for a different position. That's my advice.

[mslove]

there are terrible bosses/supervisors in every job, place, and field. The best advice is just to do what they want, or look for a different position so that she won't be your boss anymore. She does sound like a witch, I don't blame you for being frustrated. I don't think it really matters who's "higher" on the professional ladder. But in my short life experience, there's little that can ever be done about a bad boss other than moving on out of there!