What hospital's are actively hiring?

shash010 · Feb 4, 2012

I'm been applying endlessly since I graduated in May. Do any employed RN's out there know of hospitals in the NY area- Westchester, Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn, who are seriously considering hiring new nurses? So I can at least personally deliver or email them my resume. It feels like when I fill out applications online I instantly get denied because of my lack of experience..
Any feedback would be great. Thank you.[/QU
I know exactly how u feel, I graduated in 2010 and have been searching endlessly for ANY nursing job, but it seems impossible for new grads, especially since we have no experience. Most places do not accept hard copy resumes anymore, and everything is done online. In my opinion if u don't "know someone, who knows someone" getting a job is next to impossible.

lindarn · Feb 4, 2012

FYI, Law students are going through the same thing, but many of them are taking a different approach about not being able fo find a job after graduation.

They also spent alot of money going to law school, and heard how bright the job prospect would be, and shown the percentages of the law school graduates who had passed the bar examination, blah, blah, blah.

This is how they are handing it:

Law schools face lawsuits over job-placement claims

By Sylvia Wood, msnbc.com

Adam Bevelacqua graduated from Brooklyn Law School last year with $100,000 in debt but high hopes for his future.

He passed the bar on his first try in New York and had internships to highlight on his resume. And, according to his research, the school’s job placement rate for new graduates was between 90 to 95 percent.

But Bevelacqua, 29, is no longer as optimistic.“I’ve been looking for work ever since,” Bevelacqua told msnbc.com. “The jobs aren’t really there.”

On Wednesday, Bevelacqua joined 50 other law school graduates from across the country who sued their alma maters, alleging they were misled about job prospects and burdened with huge amounts of student debt.The 12 lawsuits mark the latest round of litigation against law schools for allegedly misrepresenting their employment data. Last year, similar lawsuits were filed against New York Law School, Thomas M. Cooley Law School and Thomas Jefferson School of Law.

“We believe that some in the legal academy have done a disservice to the profession and the nation by saddling tens of thousands of young lawyers with massive debt for a degree worth far less than advertised,” said David Anziska, a New York City attorney for the plaintiffs in three of the lawsuits filed.He said the goal was to get law schools “to take responsibility, provide compensation and commit to transparency.” The issue of transparency has gotten national attention beyond the lawsuits.

Last year, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. , asked the Department of Education to investigate the “job placement rates of American law school graduates; indicating whether such jobs are full- or part-time positions, whether they require a law degree, and whether they were maintained a year after employment." A call Thursday by msnbc.com to Sen. Boxer's office was not immediately returned.

The American Bar Association has already taken some steps to improve accountability among the law schools it accredits. In January, an ABA committee approved rules that could force law schools to disclose more detailed information about graduate job placement.

A call to the ABA by msnbc.com wasn’t immediately returned on Thursday.

Bevelacqua, who lives in Long Island, said he decided to join the lawsuit against Brooklyn Law in hopes of pushing the schools to provide more accurate data, especially as they continue to increase their tuitions and enrollments. The current tuition at Brooklyn Law, not including housing and living expenses, is more than $48,000 annually. “Schools won’t take people seriously unless there is an economic threat,” he said.

Besides Brooklyn Law, the schools named in the latest round of lawsuits are Albany Law School, Albany, N.Y.; Hofstra Law School, Hempstead, N.Y.; California Western, San Diego, Calif., Golden Gate University, San Francisco; Southwestern Law School, Los Angeles, Calif.; University of San Francisco School of Law, San Francisco; IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law, Chicago; DePaul University College of Law, Chicago; The John Marshall Law School, Chicago; Florida Coastal School of Law, Jacksonville, Fla.; and Widener University School of Law, in Wilmington, Del.

A spokeswoman at Brooklyn Law told msnbc.com that the school had just gotten the complaint and was unable to comment on it. She did point out employment statistics for the class of 2010, reflected on the school’s website, which showed an overall job placement rate of 88.1 percent.

Bevelacqua hopes he’ll be sworn into the bar next month, when he plans to start taking cases as a solo practitioner. In the meantime, he’s been making ends meet with temporary jobs, including a babysitting job this week that promises to pay him $150.

While he’s always wanted to be a lawyer, working on criminal and family court cases, he says he’d tell prospective students think twice before making that investment.

“If they’re going to law school because they think it will open up a lot of employment doors for them, “ he said, “I’d tell them to forget it.

I would contact a lawyer, at this point, perhaps the lawyer who is handing this case might be able to help you, or put you in touch with a law firm who can. I have highlighted, and underlined his name in the article. I would also contact the individual who wrote this article and see if she is interested in problems with new grad nurses.

This is the difference in how lawyers handle being treated like this, and how nurses, in their passive-aggressive mentality, does. They are proactive in how they are dealing with this, and nurses should emulate this.

You can see, that the ABA is aware of what is going on, and they are not doing a whole heck of anything about it. Sound familiar? The ANA, in all of its dysfuncition, is also turning a blind eye to the new grads who are coming out of school, and have ZERO for job prospects. The reasons for law and nursing are different. Law firms are not hiring, but there is not a glut of new grad lawyers to the extent that nursing has been. There have not been a flood of new law schools opening up to graduate another load of new grads who have no job prospects.

Again, at this point, I would start talking to some law firms, keep copies of school brochures, make copies of the school websites, where they talk about job prospects, passing rates for the NCLEX, etc. Get them fast, because if they get wind of legal action from disgruntled students, this information will disappear from the web sites, as well as bruchures students were given.

If nothing else, law schools are not turning out new grad lawyers, at the rate that nursing schools are. It is still competitive, and they are not relaxing school standards to bring in more students, like nursing has done. They have also contact their congressman, who have started in investigation into the matter. I would do the same, and complain to your elected officials.

Good Luck!! I feel your pain!

JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

DoGoodThenGo · Feb 4, 2012

It's rather ironic that persons keep linking law school and nursing when it comes to graduates not being able to find work. One says this because reading various news reports and from other sources the two have more in common than many think.

Contrary to popular belief most law schools in the United States teach students *about* the law rather than how to be an attorney. The actual practice and application of theory comes from post graduate work as an associate. Many law school graduates report they cannot draw up contacts, file lawsuits, etc because they do not know *how* it''s done in the real world. They can quote text and case book law up the ya-who, but that isn't the same as actual practice.

Sadly for many new newly minted lawyers the past several years have seen vast changes in the practice with many firms cutting back and or reorganising themselves in response to the fiscal crisis. This has resulted in fewer openings for first year assocates and a longer path to a partnership.

While the lack of business is driving some of these changes (fewer lawsuits, M&A and other activity etc...) what is also happening is that clients are taking a closer look at what they pay for legal services and in many instances are no longer willing to pay vast sums for billable hours by first year associates. In short they are refusing to fund the post graduate education of new lawyers (sound familiar?), and telling firms to eat some or all of those costs or they'll take their business elsewhere. Then there is also the growing use of advanced paralegals (again sound familiar?) to do some of the work that normally would go to first year associates but can be had for far less money.

Recently an article in the NYT reported that while many law firms have begun hiring again, they are being very selective and continue to ride associates hard. The upshot is that unless one has graduated from one of the top tier law programs (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, etc..) one's chances of landing a first year associate gig at any of the "white shoe" or even second level firms is nil to none.

DoGoodThenGo · Feb 4, 2012

I'm been applying endlessly since I graduated in May. Do any employed RN's out there know of hospitals in the NY area- Westchester, Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn, who are seriously considering hiring new nurses? So I can at least personally deliver or email them my resume. It feels like when I fill out applications online I instantly get denied because of my lack of experience..
Any feedback would be great. Thank you.

If one can trust the reports here NYP, Lenox Hill, and several other hospitals in the NYC area are hiring, even new grads. Problem IMHO is that there simply aren't enough openings to fill the scores of new grads coming out of NY nursing programs like clockwork every six to twelve months.

Remember as well there still are lots of seasoned nurses from last year's closoure of Saint Vinny's and North General still looking for full time gigs. Also consider because of the tight fiscal situation at many NYC hospitals nurses who cannot find steady gigs and or are used to picking up over-time find themselves working at one, two or more hospitals to get those hours.