What are Aussie hospital patients like?

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I'm a registered nurse working on moving from the United States to Australia. (Filed my nursing licence appo with NSW in December and got a job offer this week from a hospital Canberra after a telephone interview.) I'm chuffed (is that slang term dated?) about the idea of going Down Under, and have learned a lot from the various threads in the ANZAC area.

What I want to know is, what are hospital patients like in Australia? By way of explanation, let me describe the typical patient I deal with in America. (I've worked at a dozen urban and rural hospitals in our states of Florida and California, so I've got a good base of experience.)

It's uncommon to have patients under the age of 65 (the age at which government-paid medical care kicks in.) Most of the people I take care of are in their 70s, 80s and older. Most are incontinent, demented, frequently combative and at risk of falling. The latter sentence is not meant to be pejorative -- the patients are what they are, and it is our duty to take care of them. Do hospital patients tend to be younger in Oz?

Do people in Australia follow the advice of doctors and nurses? Because of its revolutionary past, America has a cultural attitude of rebellion, especially since the 1960s. Very often that translates into deliberate disregard of the sensible health instructions medical staff give. Patients refuse to take meds, families violate fluid and food restrictions for CHFers and diabetics, people are contemptuous of health workers... Do you have a nicer lot there?

I currently live in San Francisco, an ethnic melting pot of a city, so more than a third of my patients on any night will speak a Chinese dialect, Russian or some other non-English language. In Florida, it was Spanish and Haitian Creole. I know Australia has a high proportion of immigrants, but are most of them from Anglophone origins?

In American hospitals, almost every patient is on intravenous fluids, antibiotics or other medications delivered via veins. I stink at starting IVs (unless it's a younger person with good arms.) I've read that cannulisation is primarily the responsibility of physicians in Australia. Is that true?

Lastly, and sorry if this seems creepy, but do Australian hospital patients get better? In America, it seems that the bulk of what hospital nurses do is extending existence, not curing people. Our typical admission is someone who's very old and seriously ill. We get them through the crisis, send them to their house or nursing home, and then get them in a month or three with a worsening of their ailment. I have many patients who I've seen on multiple hospital visits, to the point where I don't even have to look at their medical history to fill out the admitting paperwork -- I know it by heart. The stays get longer, and the outside intervals are shorter, until the person dies under our roof. I call it the "circling the drain syndrome." I don't begrudge these people the care -- again, it is our responsibility to tend to them. Their unfortunate condition is why I have a paycheque, after all. But often I feel like the U.S. medical system is only in the business of enabling superannuated people to take a few more breaths, at great expemnse to society, while the needs of younger, more cure-able people, are shunted aside. Is that how it is in Australia?

Sorry for the long post. No matter what the answers are, I'm still moving, and glad to do it. But I'd like to get a better idea of the medical zeitgeist under the Southern Cross.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

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Have agood day........

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Grace

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I work in a emerg department in Adelaide, the area our hospital services is predominately older population and is very muticultural. We see mostly medical emergencies with the odd major trauma even thought we are no longer a trauma hospital. Slowly the population is changing and we are seeing younger families move into the area and new developments occur. Having worked agency at the Royal Adelaide hospital I was amazed at the number of younger patients they saw there, so I would very much agree that it depends not on the city you work but the population the hospital services. Do some homework on the hospital you plan to apply to.

In our department RN's are encouraged to cannulate patients, but on the general nursing wards cannulation is still primarily the domain of the medical officers.

Perth and Adelaide are generally considered laid back, picturesque cities and are family friendly, cheaper housing etc. Melbourne and Sydney are our two biggest cities and one would presume have more career opurtunitie, but life would definately be in the fast lane (as fast as it gets here anyway!!) housing is alot more expensive in the inner suburbs. Brisbane is a beautiful part of Australia and is a relatively big city. Canberra is also a beautiful city with lots of tourist attractions of national significance but having visited a number of times it does seem much quiter than the other cities but it is well located with a two hour drive to Sydney, not far from the snow in you like that. I have never been to Darwin but from what Ive heard it is made up of a fairly transient, younger population.

Congratulations on your decision to move to Australia, it really is a great place!!

Thanks again all for the advice. Just returned from two weeks Down Under. Managed to extract my Division 1 licence from the NSW board. When I rang them up they basically said "Well, as long as you're in town, we'll let you have it." Interviewed at a public hospital in Melbourne and received an offer of a job and visa sponsorship. I'd be there on the first flight out after Vic approves a reciprocal licence, but the wife now has cold feet. This despite the fact that we had nothing but good food, spirits, scenery and mateship during a fortnight of Qantas-hopping around the eastern edges of Oz. You folks are just unbelievably nice! Australia is like America was in the 1950s, before Kennedy got assassinated and everything started getting bitter and twisted...

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Australia is like America was in the 1950s, before Kennedy got assassinated and everything started getting bitter and twisted...

Bukko, please don't encourage the Prime Minister like that!

Bukko, please don't encourage the Prime Minister like that!

Don't panic, the prime minister wouldn't know how to sur the net so he'll not see the comment

Australia is like America was in the 1950s, before Kennedy got assassinated and everything started getting bitter and twisted...

I've worked in a number of settings, including those which have already been descibed.

Currently, I am doing agency work at a private hospital. My previous job to Agency was at a public hospital. These are the differences I have noted. Note they do not apply to everyone! This is just something that really has jmped out at me.

The patients in the private sector and generally weller and healthier and young. The are generally more polite and tend to have a good idea of what is good and bad for them in regards to every day lifestyle and compliance. Whereas alot of the paients in the public hospital were older and the younger ones were ruder and cared less for themselves in the way of lifestyle. (Note the public hospital was in a lower socio-economic catchment area as well). I know of a hospital, public, in a better area and their "clientelle are of a higher standard"

Relatives in the private hospital can be demanding, but never come across rude ones as opposed to the public hospital who can be demanding and rude. Again, not all, but quite a high percentage.

Public hospital patients have this "I'm entitled to xyz, I pay my medicare" yet private patients who pay medicare AND private health insurance don't see this as an issue, most probably because they don't have to wait ect.

Also, although the private hospitals have a reputation for trying to save money on nurses, and the patient load is higher compared to the public, the work is not as demanding nor physically heavy.

Now, it will be interesting for me to read that in a years time after working in the private sector to see if it holds true.

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