Were you granted nclex eligibility despite being unlicensed in the philippines?

Silverdragon102, BSN · Oct 22, 2008

Moved to the International forum

suzanne4, RN · Oct 22, 2008

CA has been enforcing their ruling since January of this year. We are repeatedly seeing them send out letters stating that they are still waiting for the license from the PRC to be submitted to them before they will release grant approval to sit for the NCLEX exam.

That you are going to sit for the exam next week means that you results will not even be posted for several months as a start. There is no way that you are going to gain approval to sit the NCLEX while on your visit to the US. Next issue is that I would focus on the NLE since it is going to be at least five years before you have a chance at a green card for the US, and is probably closer to 7 if I check the latest statistics that are out. If you think that you will be able to come here on the tourist visa and stay, then you need to do some reading. The US has been under a retrogression and there are no visas to adjust to. So, do hope that you realize that you will be returning home. Next thing for you to think about is the reason that you were only given the 90 days for the visa, and not the 180. That tells me that you are going to be watched as well. Please be very careful with what you are hoping to do, it is not going to be in your favor at all.

Next problem is that one is not an NCLEX applicant, there is no such thing as there is no application for the NCLEX exam. You are going to be applying for licensure to a state BON, in the case of CA, the BRN, for licensure as an RN. You must have permission from them to sit for the NCLEX exam.

That one has already left the Philippines is not a legitimate excuse as to why it was not written in the first place and is no longer being accepted as a viable answer.

Please be aware that even if one is accidentally granted permission to test, we have not seen one person come back and state that they were actually issued the hard license without the exam being written. Remember that in any state, just because one is granted permission to test, it does not mean that a license will automatically be issued.

Each and every file is reviewed by a human before a license number is assigned to the nurse, and the one that is reviewing the file is going to be looking for all required information to be in the file. This includes the PRC license if it was required in the first place.

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Next issue is that there are no visas available for the US, so if one does not write the NLE, then they are not going to be able to get experience anywhere and this will make it much harder to get a visa for the US later on. There are no other countries that will even consider a graduate without having a local license in their hands in the first place.

suzanne4, RN · Oct 22, 2008

And restating that you are looking at five years plus for a chance at a visa for the US, what are you going to do for experience on your resume?

Added into that the fact that CA now has the one of the highest rates of unemployment in the country. Chances of finding a hospital that is even willing to petition is also going to be quite hard because they will need to prove that they are unable to find an American for the job.

Suggest that you actually spend sometime reading here first. As well as be very aware that even if you are granted permission to sit for the NCLEX exam, that CA will not issue a license without a SSN#. And the passing letter is only valid for three years and with a five year wait plus for a chance at a visa, you do the math. You will have to apply thru another state for licensure if you wish to protect your NCLEX results before the letter expires. That also means that you would have to go thru the entire process with CA once again if the time comes that you could get a visa. So you have essentially thrown out $200 and for no reason whatsoever.

You also are not considered a US RN if you take the exam for CA as they do not issue a license without a SSN#. Passing letters are not the same as a license and are not to be considered as one.

Sweet Jelly · Oct 23, 2008

Yes, my friend also received her eligibility without Phil license but she plan to take it this November because she knows that it is needed after passing the NCLEX.

Me, personally, I don't plan to take the Phil license but one of our school head wants me to take the exams.She didn't give me my diploma which is one of the requirement even if I explained to them that I cannot work in the Phil because of age requirement. I just followed what they wanted because elders had the wisdom that sometimes we don't have (they are way ahead of us in experience) And viola after passing last December I got my letter requiring me to submit Phil license and thanks God I followed them. Sometimes God is giving some people close to you, to advise you as a form of God talking directly on you. There's no harm in examining, don't be afraid to take the exams because it is unlimited. It will also add up to your confidence in taking NCLEX. Mark my word. :nurse:

bubblesbooboobaby · Oct 24, 2008

ca has been enforsing their ruling since january of this year. we are repeatedly seeing them send out letters stating that they are still waiting for the license from the prc to be submitted to them before they will release grant approval to sit for the nclex exam.
please be aware that even if one is accidentally granted permission to test, we have not seen one person come back and state that they were actually issued the hard license without the exam being written.

yes, my friend also received her eligibility without phil license but she plan to take it this november because she knows that it is needed after passing the nclex.

sorry for cutting your post short..

thank you for all the infos. i really needed to know if its possible that i be granted eligibility. actually i just sent out my application and in it i attached my letter of explanation stating that i am due to take the local board this november, and that i will furnish them a copy of my certificate of board passing as soon as it is available(that is if i pass).

anyway, i was informed that

(1) the certificate of board passing for the local board will be issued 6 months after the release of the results at the earliest , while

(2) the eligibility letter for the nclex comes out 6 months after applying, at the latest.

and so here are my assumptions:

(1) if the local board results will be released as soon as december, then the certificate of board passing would be issued to me as late as june.

(2) if i had passed my application for the nclex just this october, the latest i could get a reply from them would be april, 2 months before i get my certificate of board passing.

(3) if it is true that they are enforcing the local board requirement for the nclex, then i probably would be denied of the eligibility, since they will be sending their response to me before i even get to send them my certificate of board passing.

ill be leaving for the u.s this december with a tourist visa. and so im hoping that i be granted eligibility "accidentally" as soon as april, at least a month before my may departure..

id like to know if theres anyone of you who has a case like mine so at least i could get my hopes up. im really worried that i could be not just wasting application money but as well as time..

Silverdragon102, BSN · Oct 24, 2008

It is very hard to predict what Ca will do

suzanne4, RN · Nov 17, 2008

Please take the time to do some reading here.

It is not a point of being a dilemma, if you wish to work in the US, then you need to follow the rules that are in place here. You need to meet our requirements, no one is required to make any adjustments to work around your schedule. I would focus on passing the NLE before doing anything now as you will not be able to do a thing without that. You also will not be able to get a Visa Screen Certificate if you do not pass the NLE. So please take things one thing at a time.

You are not going to be given an approval to sit for the NCLEX exam thru CA, there is no reason that they could grant it to you if you do not meet their requirements. And the major one is passing the NLE and being able to prove it with an actual license from the PRC.

Does not matter that you are coming to the US on a tourist visa, or that you are here now. You are not going to be able to do a thing to remain and work here. There are no visas available.

CA is requiring the local license. Period. That you have not written it as of yet does not matter to them at all. You need to meet the requirements of the state, they do not need to work around your schedule. And not sure how you have sent things in already if in another thread you are asking what to do.

And if you do not want to listen to what is repeatedly being posted about not going for licensure in CA, please be my guest. Understand that your file is going to be destroyed in three years, you are not going to be considered a US RN as a license is not going to be issued to you without the SSN# and there is no way for you to obtain it at this time. You also will be waiting weeks before you will get your results in a letter from the BRN; there is not going to be any way for you to check your results any other way. Understand that it is going to be more than five years before you will have a chance at a visa, closer to seven as things are looking now. So you would have to apply all over again to CA from the beginning.

Please take the time to do some reading on this site. And not sure what the hurry is for since CA has one of the highest rates of unemployment at this time and we are not seeing any emlpoyers willing to start a process that is going to take years.

suzanne4, RN · Nov 17, 2008

Unless one holds only US citizenship, then they are not exempt from the requirement of writing the NLE and submitting the results of it to the BRN. Even if one is exempt from the NLE, they have to provide written proof directly from the PRC that they cannot sit for the exam. The rules went into effect in January, 2008 for a start as well.

Any other reason is just that, an excuse. And those reasons are not excuses that are being accepted by the BRN. They are just excuses and they do not hold any water. If they did not want to see a local license, they would not have started requiring it.

When one is on a tourist visa, or even has a green card; you are still a citizen of the Philippines and therefore are not exempt from this requirement. Age also has nothing to do with it.

Even those that have dual citizenship are not exempt. My country has rules just as yours does, and they need to be followed. And it is a pure waste of time at the BRN when someone does not follow the rules or thinks that they do not apply to them.

Sorry, but they do. And when you get denied or told to present something from the PRC that you have not, this only delays everyone else as well.

suzanne4, RN · Nov 17, 2008

There are already multiple threads on this very same topic.

If a state requires a local license, then they need to see proof of that. And be aware that the states are actually requiring proof from the other country if the nurse is not permitted to sit for the exam by law there. Just that one has not written it yet, or has their results yet, is not an acceptable excuse. If it was, then they would have not changed their rules to requiring the local license in the first place.

And actually any state that has this as a requirement and that requires the CES from CGFNS, must provide the passing document as well as license to CGFNS before they will even release the CES.

Things are tightening up in the US on almost a daily basis. And we expect things to get tighter, not easier. As well as the specific threads listing the reasons why not to go thru CA for initial licensure as well.

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