We got into the CLC Nursing program...now what

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OK, we got in, but now what? I am a detail orientated person and I want info! :lol2: When can I start picking up things I need? What are those items?

I have really lost it! I went from thinking about getting in to wondering what to do/what to read/what to buy before class starts.

And how big of a backpack do we REALLY need? :uhoh3:

Anybody out there from CLC have any advice? Help me before my family moves out of the house permanently (wait...maybe that would be a good thing:devil:)!

check the clinical posting outside the nursing lab (i'll let you know when it's posted) and it will list both places that each section goes to.

it looks like midwest regional is a cancer hospital...does that sound right? and then you said a hospital the second half? do they let you know which hospital you'll be at for the second half as well before registration?

even though sections 1 & 3 are scheduled at the same time they are in different lab rooms. the only time you'll have another section in your class is for exam/lecture.

fyi - i've been checking clc's class schedule link periodically to see when spring classes are posted. today i found 'em!

there are 4 sections for the daytime slots. i called the nursing ed office because they only list "staff" for the instructor. i was told that in the middle of next week they will post the sections on the bulletin board outside the office. she said that online it will still only read "staff" - you have to actually go look at the posting by the office to see who is teaching which class.

sections are:

section 001

m 7:00 am - 12:20 pm clinical site

w 8:30 am - 9:20 am exam

w 9:30 am - 12:20 pm lecture

r 8:30 am - 10:50 am lab

section 002

t 7:00 am - 12:20 pm clinical site

w same as section 001 exam

w same as section 001 lecture

r 11:30 am - 1:50 pm lab

section 003

m 7:30 am - 12:50 pm clinical site

w same as section 001 exam

w same as section 001 lecture

r same as section 001 lab

section 004

t 7:30 am - 12:50 pm clinical site

w same as section 001 exam

w same as section 001 lecture

r same as section 002 lab

i guess i never realized that the exam and lecture portion are the same time for all. though it appears that sections 1 and 2 are in the same classroom and sections 3 and 4 are in another (though still at the same time slot). then sections 1 and 3 share a lab time and sections 2 and 4 share a lab time. interesting!

You will get all of your clinical information during orientation. You will get all of the directions you need in class before you go to clinical. You will have two clinical sites during your first semester. One will be a long-term care facility (nursing home). One will be a hospital. These sites can be anywhere in the county (with one or two sites in McHenry county) and can change from semester to semester. Your best bet is to not stress out about it. At orientation you can jot down your clinical sites and look them up to get some idea of how long it will take you to get there.

I was in the spring 2007 evening section and we went to Whitehall (Highland Park area) and Midwest Regional Cancer Centers of America (Zion). For nursing 172 we have been exclusively at Lake Forest Hospital (Lake Forest), rotating areas depending on what we are studying.

Someone mentioned stethoscopes... yes, you will need a stethoscope. No, you do not need to run out and buy a really expensive stethoscope. I wouldn't recommend buying the ones in the bookstore, but if you're on a tight budget, do what you have to do. A $30 stethoscope will get you through school and then you can get a nice Stethoscope for a graduation gift. A word to the wise concerning the lab stethoscopes - yes, they are terrible, but you will be required to use those stethoscopes during the end of semester Performance Exam, so do practice with them.

The evening instructor for Nursing 171 is retiring this year, so I am not sure who will be teaching that. The day instructor is very good.

You will be in class three days per week, but you know that already because you've seen the schedule! There is a 4-hour class, a 2-hour lab, and a 5-hour clinical. Prepare to create a study group early on. I cannot stress this enough. I find 6 to be an ideal size if you are looking for a group that can coordinate schedules and get together for study sessions before each exam, but that's really up to you.

Each module contains vocabulary, a page of reading assignments, 30 EBOs (more on this later), a few case studies, supplemental drug information, a page detailing the lab day, and a packet of written work for your clinical day.

Before class you are expected to do your readings and review your class guides. You will find early on that the reading is overwhelming, so you'll want to focus on the readings that pertain to your EBOs (don't worry, I'm still getting around to that). During class you will go over a series of class guides. They involve discussion of a mock situation that pertains to whatever you are studying. There is rarely any formal lecture.

Before lab you may be asked to do some reading from your skills book, but I would say I usually didn't do anything to prepare for lab. During lab you will be practicing nursing skills. You will have to take three or four "performance appraisals" over the course of the semester during which you demonstrate a skill and create a nursing note for a lab instructor. If I'm not mistaken, bed-making, bed baths, transfer and ambulation, TED hose and elastic bandages, and basic drug calculations/administration is covered during the first semester. These appraisals take 15-30 minutes to complete, sometimes with a partner, and are done on your own time by signing up for an appraisal time in the lab. I always come in to practice a skill several times and practice documenting said skill at least once before my appraisal, usually for at least 1 hour.

Before clinical there isn't much to prepare. Just show up with your drug book, stethoscope, watch, and written work packet and the instructor will take it from there. Do everything you can do. See everything you can see. The more proactive you are during clinical, the better your experience will be. The written work for clinical usually took me 2-3 hours to complete.

And finally... the EBOs. The expected behavioral outcomes are just a series of questions. This will be your focus for the exam. Nobody checks that you do them, but your exam will be heavily based on these, so I would suggest that you answer the questions. This is where the study group comes in handy. Our study group splits up the EBOs and decides a study session date at the beginning of each set of modules. If you have dependable study group members, it saves a lot of time. I spend about an hour each week answering 6 EBOs. If I had to do all 30 it would kill me.

So here's my time breakdown:

Reading, preparing for class: 2-3 hours/week

Written assignments: 2-3 hours/week

EBOs: 1 hour/week

Practicing in the lab: 1-2 hours/month

Appraisals in the lab: 30m-1h/month

Class, Lab, Clinical: 11h/week

So there you have it. It's a big time commitment, but you get used to it. I almost never do anything on Fridays, so I still have one nursing-free day in my life, and I go to school and work full time. I don't have children, but some people in our class managed work and school and kids!

Hopefully that gives you an idea of what your weeks will be like. Just be prepared to put a lot of time and effort into your work. Be flexible, and realize that the first couple of weeks will be spent adjusting to the class and figuring out what study strategy works best for you. All of the instructors have office hours. If you need help with something, anything, talk to a staff member in the lab or another student or your instructor... they really do want you to succeed (though you will question this at times :p).

OK fellow newbies - are you all breathing a nice sigh of relief now? I know I am! Because I finally feel like I have a handle on what it's going to be like, thanks to these wonderful people who have taken the time to post here. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I think the "fear" of the unknown has really been stressing me out, and I am so grateful to read these informative posts. Sure, it is going to be a lot of work and I suppose reading about all this may be daunting to some people, but for me KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!

Thanks!

thanks for all the info! i did a search on allnurses about drug calculations and found that someone posted a free download for your personal pc - a tungsten, i think. my question is: does anyone use those hand held pcs? also, is there any specific drug handbook that is preferred?

according to my friends in the 1st and 2nd semester programs, they actually recommend a rolling luggage-type carry-on for your books. they are made better and will certainly last the entire program. the downside is that they are kind of pricey. however, a friend of mine (who was in the surgical tech program) bought hers at big lots for about $20-30.

~boni~

i have a palm pilot, but not sure how to download anything onto it...lol

i need to find a rolling backpack...i'll have one before january for sure. hmmm...may have to check out big lots...but usually once their stuff is gone, it's gone!

can you send me the link for that thing to download onto my pc?

thanks for all the info! i did a search on allnurses about drug calculations and found that someone posted a free download for your personal pc - a tungsten, i think. my question is: does anyone use those hand held pcs? also, is there any specific drug handbook that is preferred?

according to my friends in the 1st and 2nd semester programs, they actually recommend a rolling luggage-type carry-on for your books. they are made better and will certainly last the entire program. the downside is that they are kind of pricey. however, a friend of mine (who was in the surgical tech program) bought hers at big lots for about $20-30.

~boni~

the rolling luggage is a good call. it will save your back. i don't carry all of my books around any more, and i've managed so far without the rolling backpack, but i would say 9 out of 10 nursing students have them. when this backpack gives up on me i'll probably switch over to a rolling one.

we have several people in class who use a pda device. they do come in handy when you want to look something up on the go, but i couldn't tell you what software to use or where to find it.

you can buy any nursing drug guide. i can't remember which one they stock in the bookstore, but i didn't like it. my mother (a nurse) sent me a copy of davis's drug guide for nurses, 10th edition ($30 on amazon), and i love it. it's a little more comprehensive than the bookstore drug guide and it includes "nursing implications" which will be a section that you have to fill out on your drug sheets (part of your clinical written work). but really, any newer drug book will do.

Ishtart, thanks for that info!!! I love all the info you are all giving us and really appreciate it!!!

Those who go into the program, I just got a 2008 weekly planner and I have my letter packed away because we just moved...when is the orientation again? I know the date, but 9am to 3pm?

Yep 9 am - 3 pm on 1/7

I went to the Helth Center on Wednesday.

I got my first TB test. This will be checked next Wednesday and I will get the 2nd one at that time. That one will be check the following Friday. The nurse took a big and a small tube of blood from me for the titres. I got to pee in a cup. This was not for drugs. She told me that the drug test would be at orientation. When I come in on Wednesday she will also give me my first Hep shot - oh yipee! All I need from my doctor is a physical. The health center will give you a sheet that the doc needs to fill out.

If I find anything else out, I'll let you know.

Diedra

I went to the Helth Center on Wednesday.

I got my first TB test. This will be checked next Wednesday and I will get the 2nd one at that time. That one will be check the following Friday. The nurse took a big and a small tube of blood from me for the titres. I got to pee in a cup. This was not for drugs. She told me that the drug test would be at orientation. When I come in on Wednesday she will also give me my first Hep shot - oh yipee! All I need from my doctor is a physical. The health center will give you a sheet that the doc needs to fill out.

If I find anything else out, I'll let you know.

Diedra

Thanks for the info Diedra!

I stopped by the Nursing Ed office this morning. Sections for NUR171 Spring 2008 are posted. Here you go:

Sec 001 & 002 -- South Street/Woodstock -- Janet Racina

Sec 003 & 004 -- Whitehall North/Lake Forest -- Cathleen Brzezinski

Sec 005 & 006 -- Westmoreland/Lake Forest -- Mary Buckner

Have a great day!

Thanks Colleen!! I stopped by Monday and nothing was there.

I want to go for Section 001 or Section 002. Anyone else with me? The only difference between the two is lab times. I am trying to decide if it sounds better to get it over with at 8:30 - 10:50 or allow myself some extra morning time and go with the 11:30 - 1:50.

My one thought is if some of us get a study group together, and we go with the 11:30 lab, we could use the time before class to get together.

Diedra

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