Want to leave bedside nursing; any ideas?

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hi, i've been a nurse for almost two years now, mostly in the ed. i really started to dislike my job when the 'ptb' gave me a hard time about time off to spend with my newly adopted twin daughters from poland.

adopting from poland is very difficult. they are now part of the eu and beginning to experience many of the same problems with fertility that the us has had for the last 15 years or so. i have two wonderful adopted daughters, 15 months old, but my experience with the so-called catholic hospital where i worked has made me question my catholic upbringing, if i want to raise my children as catholic, and if i even want to stay in nursing. i know i don't want to stay in bedside nursing.

my husband and i had to make three trips to poland (to krakow, a very long flight). for this the hr director said that i was 'coming and going as i pleased'. this occurred around the holidays. apparently, the 'ptb' were concerned that 'others' would be asking for non-fmla leaves around the holidays also. we were adopt abroad so we had to go when we had to go. (as anyone who has adopted internationally will tell you, it's not the easiest or most predicatable of processes).

then i got the hr meeting, then they dragged out the adoption assistance (2500.00 per child, or 5000.00 altogether) and refused to pay it out according to their own policy. they violated the policy they wrote, and apparently, this is perfectly ok.

when they were supposed to pay the assistance money, i got into an argument with the snake of an hr director. basically, she said/i said another. she then suspended me 'pending investigation' because she thinks i told her that i tape recorded the hr meeting. what i said was "this isn't in my recording of the meeting". i told her that i knew she didn't want to pay this money or she wouldn't keep changing the goal line. she also asked me to transfer to a lesser-known, older, outdated hospital that has real problems with retention (because it is lesser-know, old, and outdated!)

i don't want to stay in bedside nursing. i'm sick of the politics and the egos and the absurd workloads. the stress of working in hospitals has really affected me, and my marriage, and my enjoyment of my children. it's making me depressed, to say the least, and taking its toll on what i thought i was good at.

my husband is 100% supportive of whatever i want to do, work agency for a while, or go per diem someplace, or go back to school in a few months once our girls are settled.

has anyone else had similar experiences out there about hospitals being butt-heads about these kinds of things? i feel that i was lured there under the pretext of getting adoption assistance (some companies in this area pay up to 10k for each child adopted, that's amazing).

anyone have any ideas where i can work in normal clothes, with my adn degree (almost done with my bsn). i'm not particularly interested in being a management stooge, as the two unit managers i've had were astonishing in their ignorance.

hi, i've been a nurse for almost two years now, mostly in the ed. i really started to dislike my job when the 'ptb' gave me a hard time about time off to spend with my newly adopted twin daughters from poland.

adopting from poland is very difficult. they are now part of the eu and beginning to experience many of the same problems with fertility that the us has had for the last 15 years or so. i have two wonderful adopted daughters, 15 months old, but my experience with the so-called catholic hospital where i worked has made me question my catholic upbringing, if i want to raise my children as catholic, and if i even want to stay in nursing. i know i don't want to stay in bedside nursing.

my husband and i had to make three trips to poland (to krakow, a very long flight). for this the hr director said that i was 'coming and going as i pleased'. this occurred around the holidays. apparently, the 'ptb' were concerned that 'others' would be asking for non-fmla leaves around the holidays also. we were adopt abroad so we had to go when we had to go. (as anyone who has adopted internationally will tell you, it's not the easiest or most predicatable of processes).

then i got the hr meeting, then they dragged out the adoption assistance (2500.00 per child, or 5000.00 altogether) and refused to pay it out according to their own policy. they violated the policy they wrote, and apparently, this is perfectly ok.

when they were supposed to pay the assistance money, i got into an argument with the snake of an hr director. basically, she said/i said another. she then suspended me 'pending investigation' because she thinks i told her that i tape recorded the hr meeting. what i said was "this isn't in my recording of the meeting". i told her that i knew she didn't want to pay this money or she wouldn't keep changing the goal line. she also asked me to transfer to a lesser-known, older, outdated hospital that has real problems with retention (because it is lesser-know, old, and outdated!)

i don't want to stay in bedside nursing. i'm sick of the politics and the egos and the absurd workloads. the stress of working in hospitals has really affected me, and my marriage, and my enjoyment of my children. it's making me depressed, to say the least, and taking its toll on what i thought i was good at.

my husband is 100% supportive of whatever i want to do, work agency for a while, or go per diem someplace, or go back to school in a few months once our girls are settled.

has anyone else had similar experiences out there about hospitals being butt-heads about these kinds of things? i feel that i was lured there under the pretext of getting adoption assistance (some companies in this area pay up to 10k for each child adopted, that's amazing).

anyone have any ideas where i can work in normal clothes, with my adn degree (almost done with my bsn). i'm not particularly interested in being a management stooge, as the two unit managers i've had were astonishing in their ignorance.

two years is hardly giving nursing at the bedside a chance. you have been in an er and that is quite different from the many types of bedsides there are in nursing. i am sorry you have had such a problem with adoptions and all but having kids and working is what it is all about. being away from the bedside is not going to make either job any easier, believe me. your issues about adoption assistance are totally separate from your issues with nursing. it's the old "don't judge a book by its cover" thing here.

before you leave the bedside altogether, i think i would suggest trying another hospital. they are all over the place. if you want to be a sahm now, then do so, but don't blame the institution. put your priorities in order.

Two years is hardly giving nursing at the bedside a chance. You have been in an ER and that is quite different from the many types of bedsides there are in nursing. I am sorry you have had such a problem with adoptions and all but having kids and working is what it is all about. Being away from the bedside is not going to make either job any easier, believe me. Your issues about adoption assistance are totally separate from your issues with nursing. It's the old "don't judge a book by its cover" thing here.

Before you leave the bedside altogether, I think I would suggest trying another hospital. They are all over the place. If you want to be a SAHM now, then do so, but don't blame the institution. Put your priorities in order.

I have worked in hospitals for quite some time before I got my RN. I have not seen much in the way of the change in management styles -- mostly treat nurses like slots on a schedule.

When one is promised a benefit and has to hire a lawyer to get it, there's something very wrong with the system and institution. That makes the institution the right one to blame, IMO.

I enjoy working. I think it makes me a better mom. I'm also new at this, so I'm prone to making lots of mistakes.

I have a problem with your comment "I am sorry you have had such a problem with adoptions and all but having kids and working is what it is all about."

My priorities are absolutely in order, and I can blame the institution that made promises it didn't deliver on. A Catholic institution which claims to support adoption of children and then deny the very assistance that you are relying on -- well, draw your own conclusions. Wouldn't you think that blaming them is justified?

I have worked in hospitals for quite some time before I got my RN. I have not seen much in the way of the change in management styles -- mostly treat nurses like slots on a schedule.

When one is promised a benefit and has to hire a lawyer to get it, there's something very wrong with the system and institution. That makes the institution the right one to blame, IMO.

I enjoy working. I think it makes me a better mom. I'm also new at this, so I'm prone to making lots of mistakes.

I have a problem with your comment "I am sorry you have had such a problem with adoptions and all but having kids and working is what it is all about."

My priorities are absolutely in order, and I can blame the institution that made promises it didn't deliver on. A Catholic institution which claims to support adoption of children and then deny the very assistance that you are relying on -- well, draw your own conclusions. Wouldn't you think that blaming them is justified?

You clearly have far many more issues than you chose to present here on the board. As far as your comment about adopted children needing more stress free moms than biological children....That's a load of bunk. When one chooses to work with young children (adopted or not) we all have the same stressors. Those of us who work make the conscious decision to do so. Whether or not we want to work is NOT the issue here. If you like the ER then quit complaining about it. If you have a beef with Catholic hospitals, then change hospitals. Your specific difficulty with this adoption reimbursement is unfortunate, of course, but it doesn't mean that all hospitals are the same and all adoptive parents are more stressed than those who have their own biological children. In fact, we have a doctor who is a single mother (by choice) and has chosen to go to China TWICE to adopt two children. It's not like the rest of us out here are clueless to your plight, you know. Other people raise twins as well.

I was offering sympathy. Maybe if you remove the huge chip on your shoulder and look beyond your face, you might see the world differently. Just because you have worked in hospitals before you got your RN, doesn;t make the situation any different. We all deal and do the best we can with what we hvae at the time. Get a grip. As you said, you deal with 15 month old twins....you ought to be able to emotionally deal with the hospital administration. Either go with it or change hospitals. You have that ability to do that.

You clearly have far many more issues than you chose to present here on the board. As far as your comment about adopted children needing more stress free moms than biological children....That's a load of bunk. When one chooses to work with young children (adopted or not) we all have the same stressors. Those of us who work make the conscious decision to do so. Whether or not we want to work is NOT the issue here. If you like the ER then quit complaining about it. If you have a beef with Catholic hospitals, then change hospitals. Your specific difficulty with this adoption reimbursement is unfortunate, of course, but it doesn't mean that all hospitals are the same and all adoptive parents are more stressed than those who have their own biological children. In fact, we have a doctor who is a single mother (by choice) and has chosen to go to China TWICE to adopt two children. It's not like the rest of us out here are clueless to your plight, you know. Other people raise twins as well.

I was offering sympathy. Maybe if you remove the huge chip on your shoulder and look beyond your face, you might see the world differently. Just because you have worked in hospitals before you got your RN, doesn;t make the situation any different. We all deal and do the best we can with what we hvae at the time. Get a grip. As you said, you deal with 15 month old twins....you ought to be able to emotionally deal with the hospital administration. Either go with it or change hospitals. You have that ability to do that.

Wow, that's a pretty angry statement to make to someone who comes to fellow nurses for insight. Perhaps you're dealing with a chip or two of your own?

The fact is, I didn't say adopted children need stress free mothers. No mother is going to be stress free. What I did say, have said and will continue to say is that when you remove a child from the orphanage in which she was raised, with her sister, until 13 months of age, then bring them to a strange country with strange people, smells, language and animals, there are going to be some rough patches.

Lots of people have a much more difficult time than my husband and I. We were lucky with our girls. The fact that I had to hire a lawyer to get what was promised to me seems hypocritical coming from the Catholic church, with all that honesty and faithfulness to its values bunk, don't you think?

I'm not looking to get into an argument with you because you don't even half the story. Just because you don't like my message, answers or position does not give you the right to tell me to 'get a grip'.

I can only hope that you are more compassionate with your patients.

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