VA Proficiency Nurse III Frustration & Appeal

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I am feeling frustrated with the entire VA NPSB proficiency process. At my hospital, it is a good old boys system in which board members promote their friends and the other managers and shut the door on others. I am a staff RN with a MSN and years of experience. I applied for my nurse III after completing a hospital wide project and doing other work that met the 9 dimensions.

This whole process has me frustrated beyond words. My profIciency has been lost by HR multiple times. My initial NPSB review said I didnt meet 7 of the 9 dimensions. Before submitting my proficiency, I had it reviewed by 3 former board members who all said I would meet for a 3. I submitted a request for reconsideration after the initial denial, and suddenly I met 6 out of 9 dimensions. I am now appealing my denial to VACO. Has anyone ever done this? What was he outcome, and how long did your appeal take to be answered after it was sent off?

I have been repeatedly been told by my own manager "you cannot get a 3 without working in management" and "it takes multiple submissions to get approved". I do not think this is correct. It may be harder to find the time and get approval for a project, but staff RNs cannot be essentially "blocked" from promotion. The dimensions are black and white, yet a subjective system is used to approve or deny proficiencies. It seems so unfair at my hospital. I've seen other nurses get promoted who were friends with board members, while other truly deserving RNs who meet the dimensions and make lasting changed within the hospital are shut out.

Any guidance and other nurses experience with this would be greatly appreciated. I love working with our Vets, but the good old boys club and the oppressive bureaucracy had me ready to bash my face into something. I feel defeated. Thanks all

Anyone willing to help with N3 proficiency>>[email protected]. Thanks 

Specializes in progressive care nursing.

I am also struggling with the Nurse III process at the VA.  You try to get help, but people are so secretive about the process.  I want to understand how to word everything.  I was hired as a Nurse 2, step 2 over 20 years ago.  I currently have my MSN.  I am at the end of Level Nurse II.

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I am also having a tough time getting Nurse III. If anyone is willing to send me a copy of their Nurse III proficiency so I can get some insight on how to write mine it would be much appreciated. My email is: [email protected]

Am I the only nurse here who was told to write her proficiency in the third person?  Just wondering. 

Hello everyone,

Can anyone send me their proficiency report that was used to make nurse TWO please? I am seriously about to pull my hair out with no help. My email address is [email protected]. Thanks a million! ?

Specializes in ICU, ER.

I am an RN with almost eleven years of experience. Almost completed my BSN and am working on my proficiency. I am hoping to transition from a Nurse I Level 3 Step 8 to a Nurse II. Can anyone share their Nurse II proficiency with me? I am relatively new to the VA (under two years) and am needing guidance. Thanks so much!! email is my user name at outlook

Specializes in RETIRED Cath Lab/Cardiology/Radiology.

Hopefully these links will be helpful:

https://www.vanurse.org/page/ProvidingMeaningfulInputforProficiencyforNurseII

(from what I understand, you may submit your proficiency to the above organization [NOVA] and they will critique it for you)

I also did a search for "VA nurse II proficiency example," and the web came up with several.

Wishing you success!

Specializes in Nursing Supervisor.

This will be my third time trying to get my nurse 3. I have been with the VA for 11 years, I am a night Nursing Supervisor and I have my BSN and MSN in nursing. My first attempt the wrong proficiency was turned in and it was never corrected nor did I have the opportunity to appeal the decision. My second attempt I was denied my Nurse Three, I appealed the decision and the appeal process took over 6 months, I found out later that it was lost and had to be re-evaluated. I was  encouraged to send it to VACO for reconsideration, and after another 6 months I was turned down. Not before being told that VACO has never overturned a decision before. So if anyone could please send me an example of your proficiency that you received your  nurse 3 from I would be very appreciative. I need to see where I am going wrong with my wording. Thank you in advance. 

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I am an MSN prepared nurse who has been at the VA for 3 years.  I just did my proficiency with my manager and got outstanding for everything except research (which I admit, I did not do a good job writing about).  When it goes to the board, will I automatically be disqualified because I was not outstanding in all areas?  Can someone reach out to me with for help with trying to get a promotion to Nurse III.  It is true, it is not what you know but who you know and who they are willing to help.  It is so frustrating!

 

Specializes in UM/Quality/CareCoordinator/Case Management.

RN4KU,

I would truly appreciate if you can kindly share your proficiency that got you promoted to Nurse III. I am new here and I do not know how to send a message to you directly. Thanking you in advance. 

Specializes in UM/Quality/CareCoordinator/Case Management.

Hello everyone,

Can you kindly share your proficiency that got you promoted to Nurse 3? Thanking you in advance.

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It is best if you work with your supervisor and NPSB to get recommendations for improvement.  It is hard to get to a Nurse III.   They can help you tailor your proficiency to meet the standards. 

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