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Hey there..I'm posting this thread seeing who else is applying for the FY24' June start with the Army USAGPAN. I've applied before and know the rigors of the application, the back and fourth paperwork between the recruiter, endless forms, and signatures. I'm retaking an undergraduate class and a graduate science course per the boards recommendation.
Best of luck to everyone.
@MikeyD You're the local expert on USAGPAN and you are even attending now. I've got two questions for you specifically.
1) How competitive do you feel like the program is for civilians to get into? does that differ from VA/Current military? I've heard conflicting reports on how many applicants vs admitted.
2)How competitive is the program itself? I've seen in the past the attrition rate was pretty high but last year it was only 8%. Is you're class pretty cohesive or is it 'every SRNA for themselves?'
Thanks in advance.
SleepyT said:@MikeyD You're the local expert on USAGPAN and you are even attending now. I've got two questions for you specifically.
1) How competitive do you feel like the program is for civilians to get into? does that differ from VA/Current military? I've heard conflicting reports on how many applicants vs admitted.
2)How competitive is the program itself? I've seen in the past the attrition rate was pretty high but last year it was only 8%. Is you're class pretty cohesive or is it 'every SRNA for themselves?'
Thanks in advance.
Happy to answer, just remember this is my opinion. 1) class sizes fluctuate significantly. I will say if you have a good interview and meet all the admission criteria you have a very very good chance of being accepted. It is challenging for folks to get the GRE, pass MEPS, get all the paperwork and have a good interview. They don't worry as much about size as quality. If the class is 10 people that's fine and if it's 40 that's just as well.
2) attrition is rarely academic though it does happen. Typically students withdrawal for family, personal, or other reasons. If you putting in effort and are generally easy to work with that is typically enough. From my experience our teams are cohesive and work together to make it to the finish line. There is no need to sharpshoot anyone because there is nothing to gain from it. If your out for yourself that will come to light and be an issue.
Princessruby said:Thank you
Email Jana Johns about this. Iowa central is accepted as a "refresher course" if you have previously taken organic or biochem. It is not accepted if it is your first.
I recommend university of New England biochem. It's not easy but it's self paced so you can do it quick if you need to. If I can get an "A" anyone can.
MikeyD said:Happy to answer, just remember this is my opinion. 1) class sizes fluctuate significantly. I will say if you have a good interview and meet all the admission criteria you have a very very good chance of being accepted. It is challenging for folks to get the GRE, pass MEPS, get all the paperwork and have a good interview. They don't worry as much about size as quality. If the class is 10 people that's fine and if it's 40 that's just as well.
2) attrition is rarely academic though it does happen. Typically students withdrawal for family, personal, or other reasons. If you putting in effort and are generally easy to work with that is typically enough. From my experience our teams are cohesive and work together to make it to the finish line. There is no need to sharpshoot anyone because there is nothing to gain from it. If your out for yourself that will come to light and be an issue.
This is great info thank you!
do you know what the service commitment looks like for civilian accession students who have to drop out? (Not that I plan to…)
SleepyT said:This is great info thank you!
do you know what the service commitment looks like for civilian accession students who have to drop out? (Not that I plan to…)
I don't remember the time obligation but those who drop will serve as an ICU or ER nurse (whatever you assessed as). I would have the recruiter or usagpan get clarification on that.
Hello all!
Already applied and had my interview at Fort Hood. Intense experience but validated my goals to enter and finish the program. I did my physical at Fort Sill. My AMEDD recruiter is sending my scroll up next week. Now just a waiting game.
ICU nurse with 7 years ICU experience. CCRN. 8 years prior service active duty Army. (Enlisted)
Best of luck to all!
Just getting back from my interview at Fort Bliss, William Beaumont Army Medical Center, amazing experience, also validating my goals to getting into the program and serving as an Army CRNA
doing MEPS this Monday May 8 at Mountain View CA. Application also submitted and hopefeully MEPS is the last thing I have on my AMEDD recruiting side
Civilian Pediatric ICU, 3 years experience, level 2 trauma center, 42 beds, highly acute ICU: medical, surgical, Neurosurgical, trauma, cardiothoracic surgery, CRRT, ecmo
what was the Phase II interview like? I've got mine soon. Curious how your actual interview was conducted and what kind of questions were asked?
Very exciting stuff!
I shadowed all day for the first two days and on the third day I shadowed until about 1145 then I was pulled to change into my interview clothes, I think every site will be different on how the interview is conducted, I was at William Beaumont at Fort Bliss
It was about an hour and 15 minutes with the site director and assistant site director, all personal questions
however the site director was my students preceptor on the second day and in the OR he asked me clinical questions that I was able to answer, also on the third day I the assistant site director was my students preceptor and he also asked me questions in the OR
I prepped for clinical and personal questions. The student I shadowed said sometimes students with less experience will have to have assigned reading by the site director and asked to present that material during the interview to gauge critical care experience
I didn't have to do any of that, I'm applying with 3.5 years experience
32SoulPatrolRN said:I shadowed all day for the first two days and on the third day I shadowed until about 1145 then I was pulled to change into my interview clothes, I think every site will be different on how the interview is conducted, I was at William Beaumont at Fort Bliss
It was about an hour and 15 minutes with the site director and assistant site director, all personal questions
however the site director was my students preceptor on the second day and in the OR he asked me clinical questions that I was able to answer, also on the third day I the assistant site director was my students preceptor and he also asked me questions in the OR
I prepped for clinical and personal questions. The student I shadowed said sometimes students with less experience will have to have assigned reading by the site director and asked to present that material during the interview to gauge critical care experience
I didn't have to do any of that, I'm applying with 3.5 years experience
The reading material just depends. When I shadowed at SAMMC in 2019 or whatever year it was the other girl with more experience had the reading assignment and I did not. It really just depends on if they remember etc.
MikeyD, DNP, CRNA
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I did university of New England online. It's not the easiest one but it has a history of being accepted for many many people