URGENT Request for All NC Nurses

VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN · Jan 27, 2004

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For further information about the OLF issue, please see my thread: NO!!! To the OLF https://allnurses.com/t51610.html

Alnamvet · Jan 27, 2004

Having a NC license, I will say that the US Navy presence in NC will only help economically, and if they left Oceana, would spell disaster for VA Beach and Tidewater in general. I love jet noise, own home(s) where the sound of afterburners is music to my ears. Should the Navy relocate, the daily trek north on Rt 17 from NC to VA would probably be hsitory; the jobs would now be in NC. As for destroying NC economically, there is no economy in NE NC, except for real estate agents, shoddy home builders and their dilitante help, and what few farms that are left. The Navy will be the best thing that ever happened to NC since the Marines "invaded" Cherry Point.

VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN · Jan 27, 2004

I am restraining myself from replying to your inflammatory statements, but IF the Navy succeeds in its sinister plans (which they WILL NOT), our whole way of life, our ecosystem, and our economy (tourism, agriculture) will be destroyed. We have already endured the wrath of hurricanes, our jobs heading South due to NAFTA, but this "disaster" would be the worst of all. We will receive NO economic benefit from the OLF (interestingly enough, neighboring Virginia will... hmm..). Might DOESN'T make right. The Navy is operating under a cloak of secrecy and deception and sees NE NC as an "easy target." Well, they are wrong. Our God will fight for us.

Alnamvet · Jan 27, 2004

Oh hush now, child...nothing inflammatory about my statements...just the plain truth. If I had more than my one acre in Currituck, I would gladly give the Navy a landing field...no price is too big to insure that our brown shoes get the best trainig possible, and it looks like NE NC fits the bill. The majority of my friends in NC see the Navy as a great opportunity to prop up a depressed economy; my only hope is that it does not come at the expense of closing down Oceana.

elkpark · Jan 27, 2004

A big part of the issue about the OLF in NE NC is not so much whether or not the field should be built AT ALL, but *where* it should be built. There are a few other possible sites that have been considered, but, for reasons that I don't really understand, the Navy is determined to build the field on the most environmentally sensitive site of the suitable sites considered, which would seriously damage, if not just permanently destroy, a lot of wetlands and bird migratory and nesting grounds.

I understand that the Navy has to train people and has to have landing fields -- I just think they should have to abide by the same environmental laws that all the rest of us do ...

Alnamvet, I would be delighted to have them build the field up your way instead -- why don't you call them up and suggest it? :)

2ndCareerRN · Jan 27, 2004

The Washington County OLF site was recommended because it best fit the screening criteria the Navy used in considering candidate sites. These criteria included a low population density and a lack of airspace conflicts and obstructions (such as tall towers), as well as avoidance of extensive wetland complexes, public interest areas and ecologically sensitive areas. With its central location between MCAS Cherry Point and NAS Oceana, an OLF located in Washington County provides the greatest potential as a valuable training asset for current and future years

http://216.239.39.104/custom?q=cache:6kX9CNNr59sJ:www.cffc.navy.mil/olf/Release.pdf+north+carolina+olf&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Within the body of the link you will find another link to the environmental impact statement.

Is there anyone in the area that does not oppose the OLF?

alnamvet....... brown shoes, i am impressed. I wore those brown shoes for 21 yrs. (actually brown for 5 yrs).

So, if I understand this, is is allright to build the OLF. Just not in my backyard is what most of the people are protesting about.

I for one would love to be able to sit on the back porch and watch FCLP all day, and into the night. Esp if they light off the burners.

bob

Alnamvet · Jan 27, 2004

As stated earlier, I only have one acre in Currituck...barely enough to park my formidable A-6 Intruder. The real issue is the "noise" coming from the folks who bought and/or built homes around Oceana Naval Air Station who have now decided the Navy must go; Oceana was their first...if you don't like jet noise, don't buy in Oceana. So, faced with the prospect of relocating, the Navy has to look in areas that have the least amount of impact on the tender sensitivities of hawks who say they want a strong military, but just not in their back yard; in whose backyard than? We can't build near Elizabeth City...how about Nags Head? Raleigh-Durham? I don't think so; Oceana was built at a time when the city of VA Beach was just that...a beach burgh...a hiccup on a AAA map. Military airfields need plenty of "space", and when "mankind" encroaches on that space, you have problems. When and if the Navy moves to NC, I'll be right behind them, 'cause Va Beach will dry up and wither away like virtually every other military town whose bases closed. The people of NC will love the noise, will forgive the minimal impact on the environment, and will most certainly love the smell and color of money...the tens of billions of dollars that will be dumped on the NC economy.

VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN · Jan 27, 2004

When and if the Navy moves to NC, I'll be right behind them, 'cause Va Beach will dry up and wither away like virtually every other military town whose bases closed. The people of NC will love the noise, will forgive the minimal impact on the environment, and will most certainly love the smell and color of money...the tens of billions of dollars that will be dumped on the NC economy.

This is utter nonsense. The impact on this area will be akin to 10 Hurricane Floyds and will wreck what is left of our economy. We will receive NO economic benefit. Cherry Point will receive 2 squandrons of the FA18E's and southeastern Virginia 8 squadrons. We will have nothing but constant noise (about 80 decibels) 24/7, 4 times/hour, and pollution. The Navy will confiscate peoples' lands that have been in their families for generations, uprooting whole communities, destroying part of our agricultural base. In the loss of those lands, an already impoverished county will lose a large part of its tax base, as the Navy pays NO property taxes. And about that "environmental statement," the Navy has operated under a cloak of deception and secrecy. Their environmental impact study has serious flaws, if not outright distortion of the truth. One of the Navy's own contracted expects has come forth, stating how the Navy has covered up pertinent facts, and that the Washington County site is the worst site possible for an OLF (within 5 miles of Pocosin National Bird Sanctuary, the winter home of hundreds of thousands of LARGE migratory birds, such as Canada geese.) If you really want to know the FACTS (not bunk) read my thread: https://allnurses.com/t51610.html