UCSF MEPN 2022

ProspectivePNP · Apr 5, 2022

On 4/1/2022 at 1:54 PM, NP100 said:

Hi everyone! Is anyone trying to decide between UCSF and yale?? Would love to chat if so!!

To preface this I am not going to either school, but I was considering them both at one point and I talked to someone who works at UCSF as an NP and obtained a nursing graduate degree from Yale and then UCSF. They told me unequivocally to choose Yale because they felt like the education program at UCSF was very disorganized and not worth the money. That being said I have also heard some complaints from students who did the program at Yale so clearly no program is perfect but just throwing that out there because I thought it was very valuable to get insight from someone who works there now!

NP100 · Apr 5, 2022

21 minutes ago, ProspectivePNP said:

To preface this I am not going to either school, but I was considering them both at one point and I talked to someone who works at UCSF as an NP and obtained a nursing graduate degree from Yale and then UCSF. They told me unequivocally to choose Yale because they felt like the education program at UCSF was very disorganized and not worth the money. That being said I have also heard some complaints from students who did the program at Yale so clearly no program is perfect but just throwing that out there because I thought it was very valuable to get insight from someone who works there now!

Hi! wow thank you for this insight I have been trying to get ahold of someone who went to both, so this is really helpful to hear. I plan to probably live in the Bay area when I'm done with school, and I have been worried about UCSF preference when I am back in the Bay but I am seeing a lot of people who went to Yale working here so I am feeling like it might not be a huge deal.

May I ask which program you are going with??

stoicgradstudent · May 26, 2022

Was notified today that I am pulled off the waitlist and received an offer of admission!

Very excited and would love help from anyone who accepted their offer a while back.

p.s. I tried joining the facebook group ?

westrn · May 27, 2022

2 hours ago, roncabus said:

Was notified today that I am pulled off the waitlist and received an offer of admission!

Very excited and would love help from anyone who accepted their offer a while back.

p.s. I tried joining the facebook group ?

That's awesome! So happy for you. Wondering what specialty you applied for? I'm still waitlisted but have committed to another program.

stoicgradstudent · May 27, 2022

15 hours ago, westrn said:

That's awesome! So happy for you. Wondering what specialty you applied for? I'm still waitlisted but have committed to another program.

Thank you ?

I applied to the Adult-Gerontology Clinical Nurse Specialist specialty!

clementines, BSN · Jun 29, 2022

Hi everyone!! Congrats on finishing your first year at UCSF! I am looking to apply to UCSF MEPN this year for 2023 entry. Just want to ask if y’all have anything to share about the program itself. How was the first year for you? Thank you so much for your responses!

mmCA · Jul 6, 2022

Hi UCSF MEPN admits! I am applying to the UCSF MEPN in the upcoming cycle and have begun pulling my application materials together. I've always used a one page resume that is pretty limited to my education plus experiences since graduate school. I'm realizing I need to expand my resume to include additional items. Would any admitted students be willing to share the resume you used for your application (with personal information omitted if you'd like)? I would be greatly appreciated! If so, you can message me privately (I don't have that ability on allnurses yet) and I can send you my email address.

I'm mostly looking for guidance on layout and level of detail, whether you included work/volunteer experience and awards/honors going back to the beginning of college.

Thank you so much!

mmCA · Feb 3, 2023

Hi current MEPNs! Do you have a sense from MSN/speciality students how many of them work part-time as RNs during the MSN program? Is it pretty easy to get a per diem/PT job in the Bay Area as an RN who does not have a BSN/ABSN/degree related to nursing? Do you know what the pay looks like for those jobs?

Jamie Johnson · Feb 4, 2023

@mmCA This has been a huge topic with my MEPN cohort. It seems that a lot of major magnet hospitals like Stanford and UCSF will not hire RNs without a BSN; however, it is possible to get jobs at hospitals like Kaiser, as well as community-based nonprofits.

Also, since you're posting on this thread, I thought I'd mention that there have been some major changes to UCSF Nursing programs this year that you may or may not be aware of; we were told just a few months ago that we are the last MEPN cohort. They are no longer offering the MEPN program after this year. They are coordinating a new DNP program due to the ongoing demand for NPs to hold a higher degree than the Masters. The school said they will reevaluate whether they will offer the MEPN program again in 2025.

mmCA · Feb 5, 2023

Hi @Jamie Johnson, thank you for providing that feedback. Is your sense that organizations like UCSF and Stanford have a negative view/won't take applicants from ABSN and direct-entry MSN programs leading to an RN? Is it that they really want RNs with the traditional 3-4 year BSN? Also, do you happen to know Sutter's position on this? And SFGH? (Fully realize you may not have answers to all these minute questions, but thought I'd ask just in case.)

And thanks for noting the discontinuation of MEPN. I was all set to complete my MEPN application (prereqs done, letters of rec lined up, essays in great shape after writing a dozen drafts!) last Summer and was devastated when they cancelled the application cycle in August (after postponing it twice) and then made the December announcement about discontinuing the program until after 2025. Uff. Such a tough blow.

Do you have any idea what the "new" DNP program will look like? Is it essentially going to be the current DNP program, just with additional spots available? Or are they changing admission requirements? Columbia has a masters direct entry (RN after the first 15 months) that flows into a DNP (3ish years depending on specialty). I wonder if UCSF is going that route.

Also, do you know whether they're phasing out the MSN entirely, or will that program continue going forward, perhaps with a requirement that future classes also complete the DNP portion?

UCSF remains my top choice school, but with no pre-licensure program until (probably? possibly?) 2026 at the earliest, it feels so far out of reach. In the past few weeks I have received offers from Yale, Columbia and Penn, but I have three young kids and attending one of those schools would mean spending an enormous amount of time away from my husband and kiddos. I'm exploring possibilities for other ABSN/direct-entry MSN programs in the Bay Area, but many of them require additional prerequisites and/or are longer than 15 months, and none of them are equal to UCSF's caliber. What a mess!

Would greatly appreciate any additional information or advice you may want to share! Feel free to DM me if you prefer a more private forum. And THANK YOU for your thoughtful reply!