Twin Study Deepens Multiple Sclerosis Mystery

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i have three friends with ms. i have always wondered why this happened to them. i hope that someday, we will have an answer.

on the surface the story in wired made perfect sense: twin study deepens multiple sclerosis mystery. it is about a new study from the national center for genome resources that compared the genetic endowments of three sets of identical twins, one each of which contracted multiple sclerosis (ms), the other didn't. this was a full bore effort that wound up costing $1.5 million over a year and a half to sequence 2.8 billion base pairs in each twin, determine if they come from the mother or father and then -- and this is the amazing part -- determine the entire epigenome of the cd4 cell, one of the white cells in the immune system that plays a central part in ms. ms is thought to be an autoimmune disease where the patient aberrantly makes antibodies to his or her own nerve tissues. the epigenome consists in additional modifications to the genome that are acquired throughout life that don't involve the underlying sequence. they often involve attaching other small molecular groups, like the methyl group, onto the basic sequence without altering it. twins have identical genomes but their epigenomes might diverge as they age and they encounter different environmental influences. so looking for the answer in the epigenome made a lot of sense. but the answer wasn't there. there was no difference in either the genomes (expected) or the epigenomes, or, for that matter, in the transcriptomes, the repertoire of what genes are actually expressed. each twin looked the same but only one had ms.

as i say, that this surprise made sense on one level. it was a reasonable place to look. but i found another aspect of the story quite striking:

it's still possible that some as-yet-unknown genetic factor, undetectable by even the most advanced tools, may explain the discordance in the study. however, [lead author and geneticist stephen] kingsmore thinks the culprit is probably an unknown environmental influence. "there must be a nongenetic factor, probably environmental," that combines with known genetic and environmental risks, he said. (brandon keim, wired)

more at: multiple sclerosis and the curmudgeon trait : effect measure

the editors of effect measure are senior public health scientists and practitioners. paul revere was a member of the first local board of health in the united states (boston, 1799). the editors sign their posts "revere" to recognize the public service of a professional forerunner better known for other things.

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Just wow.

You my dear have just shown the world your ignorance in science. A quick perusal of a number of repuutable websites says I am correct and you are wrong. Here is one example:

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones

So why dont you post a few links telling me I am wrong. There are many types of radiation, its a generalized term. And I promise you radiation does come from cell phones, microwave ovens as well as high voltage power lines.

Normally I dont waste time replying to ninnies but in this case I felt compelled to set the record straight as I was personally attacked. I have no more time to waste and will not be replying further

You my dear are the type of nurse that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Callous, all knowing, and generally stuck up and abrasive.

And you, sir or madam, by virtue of your own link, obviously do not know what you are talking about. I was trying to be nice. Radiofrequency waves are not "RADIATION"... Microwaves do not emit RADIATION as such...they emit Microwaves, not ionizing radiation. Here is a copy and paste that explains it. I will not waste my time providing more links, because I am not the one who needs to do their research, YOU are. And you are the one that chose to make this little exchange nasty in tone.

Radiation

Microwave ovens do not use "radiation" in the common, non-scientific usage of the word. They do use electromagnetic radiation in the scientific use of that term. So do regular ovens, neon signs, the monitor you are reading this on, candles, etc.

The damaging sort of radiation is the result of atoms falling apart or being broken apart and releasing alpha and beta particles and gamma waves. This is nuclear fission. This is the sort of radiation that is used in bombs, power plants, and the like. This is also what makes substances such as plutonium and radon dangerous, these elements spontaneously break down and release damaging waves and particles, and the atoms they break down into may break down further causing more damage (such as with the dangerous "radon daughters"). Irradiating food is exposing the food item to a source of this sort of radiation, which kills any microbes in it and just may cause nutrient breakdown, as well.

There's also the ability to generate those particles while combining atoms into larger atoms, such as is in the sun. This is nuclear fusion.

Something that is radioactive (plutonium) is something that will break down and give off these rays and particles, but something exposed to these will not be radioactive, just irradiated, you would have to allow the plutonium to be absorbed directly into the food item for the food item to be tainted with radioactivity.

Not all radioactive elements are greatly dangerous. Nearly every smoke detector in your house has a radioactive element in it (usually Americanium). *

Now, electromagnetic radiation is the total spectrum of wave/particle energies, which includes those rays and particles, as well as X-Rays, radio waves, all the frequencies that televisions, cell phones, cordless phones, remote controls use, infrared, what our bodies perceive as heat, what our eyes see as light, and the forces of magnets are part of this spectrum. But the light from your monitor, the heat energy from the room around you, the infrared signal from your remote control, these are not "breaking down nutrients" in your body and tainting you with radiation (though a whole lot of UV radiation can increase your chances, so make sure you always wear sunscreen). And Microwaves are just a special wavelength of this spectrum that have some neat-o properties that make them useful for heating up some substances. They are called microwave ovens because they are using a special wavelength in the band that we called the microwave area which we already were using for communication. The microwave band is between infrared (and what we sense as heat) and UHF, VHF, and FM Radio waves.

There is no hope for you. I pray to god I never wind up on your unit as a patient.

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Hey guys, let's not do personal attacks here. They are in violation of the TOS of this site! Focus on the topic, not on each other, please!

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There is no hope for you. I pray to god I never wind up on your unit as a patient.

Me too!

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Hey guys, let's not do personal attacks here. They are in violation of the TOS of this site! Focus on the topic, not on each other, please!

Agreed!

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