Tuition Rankings?

beedog13 · Sep 21, 2008

I know of no such list but will tell you that most programs are gonna run you $45K-65K. Some state schools offer scholarships. The majority of my class at U. of Cincinnati got a 60% in-state or 60% out of state scholarship for a GRE of over 1100 or so.

Bryan

catcolalex · Sep 23, 2008

Kaiser is six on the US world and news list, and charges a yearly tuition of roughly 4,ooo-5,000 dollars. you will also pay in-state tuition to cal state fullerton, but overall very inexpensive for a wonderful school.

srna2008 · Sep 23, 2008

Those lists in World News don't mean too much. If you want to know how much each program is, check out the programs web site, most list it for you or you could call and just request that info from the program

rndee81 · Oct 21, 2008

beedog13...did everyone who got a score that high get this scholarship? i may have to look into that school!

beedog13 · Oct 21, 2008

rndee81,

It can change from year to year depending on funding. With my meager 1048 I did not get anything yet. The seniors graduate in dec.--when they fall off the system it may move the min. GRE down to my range for the last two qtrs.--the scholarship does not cover summers and there is no guarantee it will be good for the whole program...but show me another school that offers anything :twocents:

Beedog

beedog13 · Oct 21, 2008

I will have to beg to differ on the US News lists. They don't mean everything, but they surely have a place in your decision. Go to their (US NEWS) website and study the methodology used to evaluate the various disciplines of grad schools (law, nursing, med school etc.) The nursing grad schools have a pretty valid methodology. That being said...you have to look at the big picture (location, costs, word of mouth from students/graduates, clinical sites etc.). I know people who went to programs near the bottom of the list (believe it or not there are about 100 schools in the U.S.--many schools are NOT EVEN ON THE LIST) who have come out of school alot less prepared than other students (weak peds, weak regional, weak OB). You have to look at all the factors.

Beedog

loveanesthesia · Oct 22, 2008

Go to their (US NEWS) website and study the methodology.....who have come out of school alot less prepared than other students (weak peds, weak regional, weak OB). Beedog

Clinical experience is not a part of their methodology, the methodology consists of surveys sent to all the program directors asking for their opinions on the other schools. What does a PD in CA know about a program in NY? not much of anything generally. They've also added data on the publications of faculty on the programs, again completely unrelated to clinical experience. Clinical experience is a relevant measure of the quality of the education, and I wish it was included. You should ask questions about clinical experiece: Do students share cases with other SRNAs? with residents?

What is the regional anesthesia experience? OB? peds? trauma? Ask for averages, and for the range of experience between students. Some of the large programs may have some students do 50 epidurals, while some do 1 or 2. How is that determined?

The shorter programs may not allow much time that to get the minimums and then sit boards. Look at that. Are you ever going to do clinical anesthesia 'full time, every day of the week' or are you always on alternate days so that the program can take larger numbers of students. You really solidify your skills with more time in clinical. None of this is part of the US News and World Report list.

beedog13 · Oct 23, 2008

Loveanesthesia,

I will defer to your years of experience and agree that US News should include some measure clinical quality in their methodology. However, I think there is a pretty good feel for the quality of education around and about when those surveys are filled out, especially by those who have been doing it for awhile (the schools on the list). I agree that the US News list is not quantitatively reliable, that is why I still asked all those questions at my interview too--even though my PD was the 2007-2008 AANA president and my program is consistently ranked 10th-11th. I wanted to know exactly how the clinical opportunities compared to other places. Now, I don't think it is worth fretting over a difference of even 10-15 spots on the list, especially if you have great firsthand info from grads/students and a certain program makes geographical and economic sense. The list has a role when narrowing choices. Even a co-located MD residency can have a mixed, minimal, or large impact. E.g. we will do most of our hearts at private hospitals while the residents do them exclusively at the university--I think our experience will be more varied and generally better. We do peds in the hospital with the busiest peds surgical service in the world--no amount of residents will dilute our opportunities there--it is possible to meet grad requirements for peds in a few days! Our university hospital is a level I trauma center and we see gun and knife club business daily as well as all other manner of MOI's. I have a friend that went to a school in WV where they basically got enough regional to meet the grad requirement--MD's did the vast majority. He needed alot of regional mentoring once he started working, but still became really comfortable in a short time. I was also accepted to an upstart program in UT where the CRNA/MD climate is pretty cold if not hostile--they have clinicals all over the place and many not in UT. I even lived 1 mile from the college, yet I moved 1700 miles. Incidentally, that school (while accredited) is not even on the bottom of the US News list...are there any in the top 25 that are severely lacking in any regard?

Beedog

cooldude41 · Oct 23, 2008

I have never come across one place where exact tuition fees are listed.

Tuition fees keep changing every semester and its very hard for any one website to list all the tuition fees for all colleges and all departments.

Considering 1000's of colleges and universities are in U.S.

Best way is to look at tuition fees by browsing at each university website.

Ivan Palma · Oct 24, 2008

I think a better indication of the quality of a CRNA program is the length of accreditation granted to it by the AANA. I think the length can vary anywhere between 3 years and 10 years.