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Surgical Fires Presentation

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Specializes in surgical, emergency. Has 40 years experience.

I am in the process of preparing an OR fire power point presentation for our sugical staff, and need a little help.

A few years ago, I think, there was a news video, ABC I believe, that set up a surgical fire in a lab. While there were some things that weren't quite right, I think it would make an interesting addition to my presentation.

My question to "y-all" is...does anyone have a copy of that video that I could have??

In addition, if anyone has any pointers, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

shodobe

Specializes in O.R., ED, M/S.

I do the mock fire drills in our department every year and present fire drill criteria and have alot of written info. I do have an older video from AORN on the subject and it is very good. I use it in our competency packets. I know I just downloaded some very good info from ECRI about OR fires. let me see what I can get for you and I will post the info later or you can PM me. Mike

shodobe

Specializes in O.R., ED, M/S.

I have two videos that are a little old but still accurate and good to watch. One is titled, "Fire prevention and Safety During Surgical Procedures" by Valleylab. The other is "O.R. Fire Prevention, A Comprehensive Look", by Allegiance. I am not sure if these companies produce these particular videos, but they probably have something like these and a bit more recent. Good Luck.

Also go to the ECRI website and you can get a lot of info on fire prevention.

mcmike55

Specializes in surgical, emergency. Has 40 years experience.

Guys, thanks for the help. Actually, after posting, I found a really nice presentation on the Valleylab website, got a CEU for my trouble too!!!:yelclap:

Anyway, they have a couple of nice short little clips I'm going to see if that's possible to add. There is also a nice standby, you've probably seen it, it's the one from the NFPA I think, showing how fast a dry Christmas tree can ignite.

It's very impressive, and is a good example of a fire triangle in action.

I'm also going to an ESU seminar in a couple of weeks. Hope I can pick up some info there too.

Thanks very much for your help!! This is one of the great things about Allnurses, you've always got somewhere to turn to with a question!

In the mean time, the search continues...thanks again!

Mike

We did a really fun interactive presentation where I work. We held it on a day the the surgeon's had a late start.

Staff was put into teams.

The teams had to go to different stations thoughout the department. Each station had different goals. 1 had an table fire, 1 had an ET tube fire, staff had to find locations of extinguishers and fire alarms, etc...

There were prizes along the way of chocolate etc, and team to finish first got something like free lunch in the cafeteria.

Got LOTS of positive feed back from this. Also it was written up in an AORN newsletter. (Tho I can't remember which one)

Our former manager came up with this I think she based it off the Amazing Race series.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

One year we took various drapes, and various ignition sources to the local fire dept. training ground, and did demos on how long it takes for the fire to start, and how quickly it spread. We video taped this, and that was part of the presentation. We also took a stopwatch to time the ignition and the spreading of the ffire, and recorded the times.

the aorn did a presentation on fire safety not long ago. our surgery manager had them send a representative to give a demonstration through power point. ceus were involved too. you may want to check with them next time too.

haras regnurps

Specializes in or/trauma/teaching/geriatrics. Has 26 years experience.

Marie

the thanks has nothing to do with this, but with your quote at the end

Grandma- leaving the lid open for thinking outside the box that's good

ps don't leave the lid off of the box if you are putting out a fire.

haras regnurps

Specializes in or/trauma/teaching/geriatrics. Has 26 years experience.

Valleylab is an awesome source, so is conmed.

not sure where your facility is at but you might want to have your local fire department show up to help with a demo ( preferalby outside if it is not windy )

does your facility have fire blankets available for every OR room?

shodobe

Specializes in O.R., ED, M/S.

Valleylab is an awesome source, so is conmed.

not sure where your facility is at but you might want to have your local fire department show up to help with a demo ( preferalby outside if it is not windy )

does your facility have fire blankets available for every OR room?

I am going to have to check, but the last number of fire research I have done does NOT recommend fire blankets to be used at all. I am on vacation and won't get back until next week, so I will find it and PM it for you.

haras regnurps

Specializes in or/trauma/teaching/geriatrics. Has 26 years experience.

I wasn't talking about the old fire blankets soaked in water. I was referring to the kind that turns to water when heated and helps smother a fire. It can't be used for an ET flame-out but if drapes go they can be used and are sterile. The key is not waiting---- even waiting a few seconds can mean the difference between living and dying and I'm not just talking about the patient. It is why I always have a wet towel or 2 and several very wet lap sponges available just in case. it only takes a split second for your paper drapes to ignite especially in the OR enviorment. It is a bit difficult to stop. drop and roll your patient isn't it.:idea:

haras regnurps

Specializes in or/trauma/teaching/geriatrics. Has 26 years experience.

sho-----

it is called a jel blanket. comes in it's own mounting case they are not cheap, but it will smother the fire and give initial trx to the burn victim.

In no way is wool or other fibers that can ignite a part of their compostion.

shodobe

Specializes in O.R., ED, M/S.

There is a very good article here on OR fires and the rational behind not using fire blankets.

/www.vabiomed.org/documents/win07/hd350202-guid1%20surg%20fire%20safety.pdf

I have not heard of the blankets you are talking about, interesting though. Can you give me a manufactuers name. Thanks

haras regnurps

Specializes in or/trauma/teaching/geriatrics. Has 26 years experience.

go to

First Aid Products .com

and look for a water-jel heat shield in container/ model # sku:M-4002

they are listed under fire blankets.

I wish that I had a source for a video clip of using it.

You must be careful when using any type of smothering device- so as not to spread the fire soucre in the process.

One year we took various drapes, and various ignition sources to the local fire dept. training ground, and did demos on how long it takes for the fire to start, and how quickly it spread. We video taped this, and that was part of the presentation. We also took a stopwatch to time the ignition and the spreading of the ffire, and recorded the times.

Marie,

Could I get a copy of the video you have done?

mcmike55

Specializes in surgical, emergency. Has 40 years experience.

Thanks to you all for your replies!!!

Tomorrow is day #2 of a series of 3 days to cover this topic.

The first day, I did power point about fire triangle, etc. I also gave out a scavenger hunt list, at least two exits, pull stations, etc.

Tomorrow, a firefighter from the local FD is coming in to help me talk about actually fighting a surgical fire, and evacuation of the OR.

Next Monday, we're going to do an actual fire drill/evacuation.

We've found a few weak spots in our fire/evacuation policy, so helping rewrite that is my future! I like the idea of setting drapes on fire, and video taping them.

Evolution not revolution I always say!

Mike

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