Stuudents kicked out of nursing program in NY state

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Hi all...need some adivce,

I was kicked out of a nursing program last spring after my first semester due to failing two classes with a C. Even though it was just shy of point something mind you (not even a full point). I was not prepared for the rigorous full time work load, my family was going through a lot of hardships and I was also working which I think all contributed to my dismay. I filed a grievance letter but to no avail I was still let go. I won't call the name of the school because I don't want to bad mouth it just yet before I graduate. Anyway, since then I changed my major to Psychology and will be graduating this may. I manged to pull my gpa back up to a 3.0 and have been applying EVERYWHERE in New York since i got dismissed but all I seem to be getting are rejection letters. You name it, i've probably applied there (Accelerated, Associated, 4 year programs). I have spent almost over $200 in application fees, transcript requests and exam fees. My total rejection letters as of today are 5 and I am really starting to give up hope. Nursing is my passion and I really don't want to give up on my dream. I think that one semester of nursing school on my transcript is really screwng me over. I am not a dumb girl. There are mostly all A's on my transcript from gen prereq's and also B's in my science prereq's. Made the deans list 3 semesters since my 4 years in college. Any advice? Has this happened to anyone else and they got accepted somewhere else? If so which schools? Please help me. Please give me some ounce of hope.

Hi PrincessTinkerbell,

Thank you sooo much for your advice. It almost made me cried. Thank you again for giving me hope and encouragement. :)

I would also like to thank who responded and gave me an advise (you know who you are and sorry I couldn't email privately). MUCH APPRECIATED

No problem! Make sure you keep us updated!

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This is a problem that many students face daily for different reasons. I know someone who failed for for a fraction of a point and got kicked out. It is sad!!!! I believe that some students do not belong in nursing school classrooms, while I belive that some teachers do not belong in the classroom either. Either way, something will work out for you RNDROPOUT22!! Keep the FAITH! Anyone can message me and I will think you the school from hell I am attending. I wont advise my worst enemy to go to that school.

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Go to the Dean alone....I hope it works out with LIU. Trust me...:up:

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hi what nursing school in ny requires only a c

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hi what nursing school in ny requires only a c

On paper most if not all CUNY community college nursing programs still only require finishing the pre-nursing sequence with a 2.5 GPA, and maintaining same for retention.

However IIRC, all CUNY community and four year nursing schools now also require the NLN exam as part of the entry process, also have found ways to tighten things up within the program while not running afoul of the open admissions mandate of the city university system

Being as all this may, unless there is a *HUGE* decline in applications a "C" average just won't make it for entry into any of the CUNY nursing schools at the moment. So many students are applying with GPAs >3.0 that the numbers well exceed open slots.

Keep in mind also many CUNY nursing programs seem quite happy to graduate few students and have them all pass the boards, versus a larger number with lower first time passing rates. The nursing program at City Tech seems one such program. At one time they had one of the lowest passing rates for CUNY or any other nursing program in NYC for that matter. As of the last reported stats they've gone to number one (or in the top five, cannot remember right now), but graduated only a handful of students.

In short the mandate seems to be clear for many nursing programs, CUNY or otherwise, get shot of "dead weight" (if you'll pardon the expression) students either before entry or during the program if that is what it takes to get those NCLEX numbers up.

Sadly it seems what matters to nursing programs both in NYC and elsewhere is "teaching to the test", that is having high first time board passing rates. I say it is "sad" because it leads to situations such as what started this and other threads like it. A very low threshold for failure and or tolerance of those whom are deemed by those running the program as not likely pass the NCLEX.

Schools get this information from research done that links grades and or testing results (such as HESI) to those students who pass the boards.

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On paper most if not all CUNY community college nursing programs still only require finishing the pre-nursing sequence with a 2.5 GPA, and maintaining same for retention.

However IIRC, all CUNY community and four year nursing schools now also require the NLN exam as part of the entry process, also have found ways to tighten things up within the program while not running afoul of the open admissions mandate of the city university system

Being as all this may, unless there is a *HUGE* decline in applications a "C" average just won't make it for entry into any of the CUNY nursing schools at the moment. So many students are applying with GPAs >3.0 that the numbers well exceed open slots.

Keep in mind also many CUNY nursing programs seem quite happy to graduate few students and have them all pass the boards, versus a larger number with lower first time passing rates. The nursing program at City Tech seems one such program. At one time they had one of the lowest passing rates for CUNY or any other nursing program in NYC for that matter. As of the last reported stats they've gone to number one (or in the top five, cannot remember right now), but graduated only a handful of students.

In short the mandate seems to be clear for many nursing programs, CUNY or otherwise, get shot of "dead weight" (if you'll pardon the expression) students either before entry or during the program if that is what it takes to get those NCLEX numbers up.

Sadly it seems what matters to nursing programs both in NYC and elsewhere is "teaching to the test", that is having high first time board passing rates. I say it is "sad" because it leads to situations such as what started this and other threads like it. A very low threshold for failure and or tolerance of those whom are deemed by those running the program as not likely pass the NCLEX.

Schools get this information from research done that links grades and or testing results (such as HESI) to those students who pass the boards.

I'm finishing up my ASN @ City Tech and you are absolutely right.

I've seen so many great students who were kicked out. It's very sad. It's like a boot camp. They only want the best of the best graduating so they can have the highest NCLEX passing rate. The graduating classes are getting smaller and smaller every semester.

One thing that has helped the recent NCLEX passing rates is that we now have a partnership with Kaplan. Fourth semester students are prepped hard core with Kaplan tutors, focus tests, QBank questions and NCLEX simulation tests. Kaplan used to be an option. Now, it's a requirement. All nursing students starting at 1st semester are required to take Kaplan tests (and pay their fee).

They are SO focused on helping us pass the boards, it sometimes makes me wonder if they even care if we are going to be good RN once we get those licenses....:confused:

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Keep in mind also many CUNY nursing programs seem quite happy to graduate few students and have them all pass the boards, versus a larger number with lower first time passing rates. The nursing program at City Tech seems one such program. At one time they had one of the lowest passing rates for CUNY or any other nursing program in NYC for that matter. As of the last reported stats they've gone to number one (or in the top five, cannot remember right now), but graduated only a handful of students.

In short the mandate seems to be clear for many nursing programs, CUNY or otherwise, get shot of "dead weight" (if you'll pardon the expression) students either before entry or during the program if that is what it takes to get those NCLEX numbers up.

Sadly it seems what matters to nursing programs both in NYC and elsewhere is "teaching to the test", that is having high first time board passing rates. I say it is "sad" because it leads to situations such as what started this and other threads like it. A very low threshold for failure and or tolerance of those whom are deemed by those running the program as not likely pass the NCLEX.

And can anyone guess why this is going on?? Hint: it's not just to 'make the school look good'. Let's see who can figure it out ;)

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And can anyone guess why this is going on?? Hint: it's not just to 'make the school look good'. Let's see who can figure it out ;)

Funding?

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I would refrain from neglecting to send your entire school history to the place of application, OP. I took 1 1/2 years of classes at my first college, and left. I took two classes at a nearby university and due to some mix ups with the registrar-i was still signed up for the following semester (after I had moved 500 miles away) at this university and was therby given 3 F's--which was non negotiable-(I should insert here that even though I was absolutely not proactive enough that this school has a bad reputation for doing this to transfers on no grounds)-and brought my GPA down considerably, to where I was barely able to get into my RN program-thankfully, I was accepted and my dean knew of this school's reputation and did not let that sway her-but falsifying ANYTHING when you are trying to get into school is wrong. It can not only get you kicked out but can also jeopardize any loans or grants you may have. Being honest and upfront is always the better deal.

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