I decided to start a new thread to show evidence or stories of just how serious these illnesses can be
And to anyone who disputes the severity of just how serious these well documented illnesses and complications of them are, I would seriously suggest reviewing some of your science courses
From another board I was reading.....
Obviously you are not of the generation of those of us who suffered through these illnesses. We ALL had measles, mumps, chicken pox. Oh, and let's not forget polio. Even an ear infection could result in complications. With the mumps you think you are choking to death. Oh yeah, testicular mumps can cause sterilization. The chicken pox left scars. But with the measles the scariest part was the high fever. I remember that illness in a dreamlike state. I remember the doctor making the house calls, my parents bathing me in alcohol to try and get the fever down. My mom told me I was delirious. Now picture that times the eight kids that were in our family.
Of course, the problem with the high fever is that it can lead to convulsions and other serious complications. I had an older cousin who got the measles at age 16. Her complications led to such severe brain damage that she was left with the mind of a two year old. She spent the rest of her life in an institution.
Because I was curious, I pulled out my Kindergarten and first grade report cards. I was absent 22 days in Kindergarten and 30 days in first grade. I remember as these illnesses would go like wildfire through the classrooms there would be 8 - 10 kids gone at a time. Pretty hard for a teacher to teach when kids are out for long periods at a time.
You can bet that when these vaccines became available our parents got us vaccinated. The Polio vaccine didn't become available until 1963. They did mass community vaccines for that. I remember going to **** School in ***** and standing in long, long lines of people waiting to get it. It was an oral vaccine and I remember they put it in sugar cubes.
Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
Yes, I also agree with the author.
Overall I found the show to be disappointing.
Even though the Scientists and Doctors did a good job of explaining simple statements of TRUTH about the benefits of vaccinations and herd immunity,and all the studies that have been done over and over, it was all blown away by the 'goal-post' movers.
The show played to the emotions of the fear-mongers, and actually focused on making them SEEM legitimate, like that woman who lobbies against vaccines. Anti-Vaxxers are like a bunch of kids who stick their fingers in their ears and say "LALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
And what was all that BS about the cheerleader???? It did not seem to belong in the show at all!
Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
I also went through the link you posted to the Dystonia Research site and read a lot about it; I know everybody is different, but I have known more than a few folks with some form or another of dystonia, and the visual of the cheerleader, Jennings, just doesn't look right to me! Of course, you know, I am no expert and certainly haven't observed her in person. I imagine it would be hard to maintain her complicated movements for long, but who knows. The Dystonia site also said that the severity can come and go and be brought on by numerous stressors. It just looked to me like she was doing a series of lunges along with irregular arm motions.
Strange.
Edited to add: Just watched all the 20/20 stories about Desiree Jennings. I concur with the docs who said it is psychgenic.
I also went through the link you posted to the Dystonia Research site and read a lot about it; I know everybody is different, but I have known more than a few folks with some form or another of dystonia, and the visual of the cheerleader, Jennings, just doesn't look right to me! Of course, you know, I am no expert and certainly haven't observed her in person. I imagine it would be hard to maintain her complicated movements for long, but who knows. The Dystonia site also said that the severity can come and go and be brought on by numerous stressors. It just looked to me like she was doing a series of lunges along with irregular arm motions.
Strange.
Edited to add: Just watched all the 20/20 stories about Desiree Jennings. I concur with the docs who said it is psychgenic.
From what I remember, even the Dystonia Foundation distanced themselves from her after viewing the tapes of her movements. At the time this story made headlines, many neurologists who specialize in dystonia watched her videos and said categorically that this was absolutely NOT dystonia.
I don't think she was pulling one over on anybody, but she had a disorder that had nothing to do with vaccines or dystonia.
Here is an interesting take on the Desiree Jennings debacle:
Yeah, I was not happy with that story at all. Thanks for the links - this happened way back in 2009 and Frontline said nothing about it being debunked.
Just watched the videos on RationalWiki . . . . .sorry, that's not real.
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​2105?? Gad that was a looong nap I took!