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States that don't require CES reports

Hello, new to AllNurses! Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

Does anyone know which states in the US do not require a CES report or have to go through CGFNS?

A little background to my question:

My mother-in-law is trying to apply for the NCLEX exam in Texas, but they are requiring a CES report of her education. She was working in FL as an LPN (long story) and is trying to move near to us in Texas. She wants to transfer her LPN license here, but because of her education as an RN, Texas won't allow it. The only option she has is to go for her NCLEX exam in Texas to get an RN license. The only problem we have is that she graduated from a school in India with her RN degree, but it was back in 1971. Those idiots at CGFNS want us to do all the legwork to find out her education background and they make a cool 300 by taking our hardwork and handing it over to the board.

I have no clue how we are going to be able to get that info to CGFNS. We tried calling that school, but they speak a different language and no one there speaks English. Plus, I have no clue if they still have records going back 40 years.

The board advised me that I can get my MIL to apply for a license in another state that doesn't require a CES report, but I have no clue which states don't require one. I have heard Cali doesn't, but are there any other states?

Thanks in advance.

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    Finding a state that doesn't need CES isn't your problem.. the states that don't require CES have their own requirements, all of which include obtaining school records and license validation from the country of origin. Not to mention, you didn't say how long ago she last worked as an RN, but it's going to be very difficult to pass NCLEX cold.

    What you want is a state that will permit endorsement of her FL LPN license to another LPN license (although that won't necessarily get her closer to you in Texas).

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    My family wants her to work in Texas, so she has to go for the RN.

    She last worked as an RN 18 years ago. She came to FL from overseas, made attempts at the RN exam, but failed. She then chose to go for the LPN and passed it, so she just worked as a LPN until as of a couple months ago.

    Since the board of Texas said she can't transfer the LPN, they did a check on her background to see if she took the RN exam and they found nothing (guessing it was too far to look back 18 years).

    So this is a brand new opportunity for my MIL to take the NCLEX, even if it's cold. But in order to do that, we are looking at a needle in a haystack issue to find her education records in India from 40 years ago. We can still do the legwork and find out the education background as license verification and not CES (according to the board), but I don't want to pay an middleman agency who doesn't want to do anything for us and rip us off of our hard earned money.

    So does anyone else know of which states in the US do not require a CES report or have to go through CGFNS?

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    No state is going to take the transcripts written in a foreign language you are going pay a third party. Many states require recent RN experience and a current license from the home country. It sounds like she only has a LPN license.

    I don't think you are going to find a state that does require some form of third party to review the credentials. Also the lack of recent experience as a RN is going to be a huge barrier.

    Sounds like the choices are for her to stay in Florida and work or more to Texas and not be able to work as a nurse.

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    No state is going to take the transcripts written in a foreign language you are going pay a third party. Many states require recent RN experience and a current license from the home country. It sounds like she only has a LPN license.

    I don't think you are going to find a state that does require some form of third party to review the credentials. Also the lack of recent experience as a RN is going to be a huge barrier.

    Sounds like the choices are for her to stay in Florida and work or more to Texas and not be able to work as a nurse.

    The transcripts are in English. I just hate having to go with CGFNS because they need it directly from a college in India who I'm pretty sure is not going to keep records that are 40 years old. The only place that has her education records and transcripts is the Florida BON. They told me today they can have my MIL sign a waiver to have copies of her records sent to whichever board that needs them. But if CGNFS is involved, the board we try will not accept it from us.

    California seems to be the only state that will accept records from another board and they don't go through CGFNS. I called them today and talked with them, but since I'm striking out with a few other states I callled, I might call Cali again.

    The Florida choice is one possibility, but the loophole is to get her license in another state and then have it transferred to Texas. That's what I'm going to aim to do.

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    California requires an active license ( does your MIL maintain her Indian License).

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    I don't understand your questions then. Texas needs CES. You asked which states don't. Then you said she has to work in Texas. If Texas require CES, then they are most likely going to require it whether for initial licensure or endorsement... so your choices are:

    1. Do CES and apply for TX licensure

    2. Don't do CES and don't apply for TX licensure.

    Just because you "want" to do something doesn't mean that it's going to be possible. I assure you that I didn't "want" to pay CGFNS hundreds of dollars for VSC and CES, but it's their ballgame so you have to follow their rules if you want to play.

    Do you really think that any state should license your MIL as an RN without checking her credentials/education... when she has not worked as an RN for nearly 20 years, and couldn't pass the NCLEX-RN even back then? I don't mean to be rude, but this is the reality. The BON's job is to safeguard the public.

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    I would like to know if a visa screen is necessary to change status from a student visa to a working visa. I am already here in the US on a student visa. I already passed my NCLEX and have a compact license. I was required to have a CES report to be eligible to take the NCLEX. I am confused because the visa screen is kind of similar with the CES report.

    I am not sure if it is right to say that a visa screen is needed only for those who don't have a visa or are not in the US.

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