Starting from zero

suzanne4, RN · Feb 20, 2005

Hello everyone,
I'm starting from zero: I just passed the local nursing examination in the Philippines and dreaming of working in NY. No CGFNS/NCLEX/English tests.
I've read much of the posts here (especially the long posts), and please comment on my plan since it involves money and lost time if I will commit the same mistakes:
(1) Apply for New Mexico BON:
» I heard that it, and also Vermont BON are the fastest (since they don't require CES). They only require either CGFNS certificate if you have it OR official transcript from my school (http://www.state.nm.us/clients/nursing/forms/ExamApp020905.pdf)
(2) Apply for Visa Screen:
» According to suzanne4, this is the most prudent thing to do since the application here is so slow, so better apply early.
(3) Apply and take NLCEX once ATT is available
(4) Take English Exams
(5) Apply for Endorsement to NY BON
Then immigration.
Did I miss anything? Or is this road a mistake?
Thanks,
cringeguy

You need to stop here and take a deep breath. NY does require the NCLEX exam, as do all of the 50 states here. NY may not require an English exam for licensure, but the US government does for the Visa Screen Certificate.

New Mexico requires a credentials verification, almost every state does if they don't require CGFNS exam. California just happens to do their own.

I would go ahead with NY for initial licnesure, you will actually save yourself time instead of running around in circles. Worry more aobut getting the needed exams completed, then how quickly you can get everything done. It will work out much better for you in the long run.

Do the things in the proper order and you will save yourself quite a bit of time, money, and effort.

The best things are the things worth waiting for........ :rolleyes:

cringeguy · Feb 21, 2005

You need to stop here and take a deep breath. NY does require the NCLEX exam, as do all of the 50 states here. NY may not require an English exam for licensure, but the US government does for the Visa Screen Certificate.
New Mexico requires a credentials verification, almost every state does if they don't require CGFNS exam. California just happens to do their own.
I would go ahead with NY for initial licnesure, you will actually save yourself time instead of running around in circles. Worry more aobut getting the needed exams completed, then how quickly you can get everything done. It will work out much better for you in the long run.
Do the things in the proper order and you will save yourself quite a bit of time, money, and effort.
The best things are the things worth waiting for........

Thanks suzanne4, the last sentence is the clincher!

; )

cringeguy

tee-ay · Feb 27, 2005

Hi,

Is it true that there are only 3 states which do not require CGFNS/CES/CVS prior to NCLEX?

tee-ay

letina · Feb 27, 2005

Hi,
Is it true that there are only 3 states which do not require CGFNS/CES/CVS prior to NCLEX?
tee-ay

Yes, California, New Mexico and Vermont

Tina:)

tee-ay · Feb 27, 2005

Yes, California, New Mexico and Vermont
Tina:)

Well, we know that California takes too long. So it means theoretically, if cringeguy is aiming for NY, then he can actually apply for either (or both) NM and Vermont.

Then while waiting for the Eligibility, apply also for CVS for the endorsement later. After one month (?), he gets the Eligibility, take NCLEX, gets the CVS, and apply for endorsement.

The idea is while waiting for the CVS, you can actually review, take NCLEX at the same time. -- As opposed to wait for the CVS first BEFORE taking NCLEX (in the case that you apply to NY directly).

This is in a consideration that someone is in a hurry since I heard CVS takes timeeeeee to come out.

Do I have a point?

tee-ay

suzanne4, RN · Feb 28, 2005

Well, we know that California takes too long. So it means theoretically, if cringeguy is aiming for NY, then he can actually apply for either (or both) NM and Vermont.
Then while waiting for the Eligibility, apply also for CVS for the endorsement later. After one month (?), he gets the Eligibility, take NCLEX, gets the CVS, and apply for endorsement.
The idea is while waiting for the CVS, you can actually review, take NCLEX at the same time. -- As opposed to wait for the CVS first BEFORE taking NCLEX (in the case that you apply to NY directly).
This is in a consideration that someone is in a hurry since I heard CVS takes timeeeeee to come out.
Do I have a point?
tee-ay

Your point is not workable............First why pay all of the extra fees? Nothing is done for free. It is actually the quickest to apply to NY and get everything done by them........If the proper documents are submitted on time, you can get your permission to sit for the NCLEX exam in about three months or so. Visa Screen documentation is also done at the same time with the same documents. Remember that as a foreign nurse, you need to have this to apply for a visa, this will add four months minimum to your schedule.

Next thing to consider is where the nurse actually wants to work.........if New Mexico, your time is going to be increased becasue of where the visa is processed at. NY or Vermont would be the quickest as the processing time for the visa is the shortest with those..............

If a nurse follows my schedule and wants to NY, again depending on which country that they were born in, they can actually be in the US working in about one year...................and with none of the extra fees that you are suggesting...........

suzanne4, RN · Feb 28, 2005

Well, we know that California takes too long. So it means theoretically, if cringeguy is aiming for NY, then he can actually apply for either (or both) NM and Vermont.
Then while waiting for the Eligibility, apply also for CVS for the endorsement later. After one month (?), he gets the Eligibility, take NCLEX, gets the CVS, and apply for endorsement.
The idea is while waiting for the CVS, you can actually review, take NCLEX at the same time. -- As opposed to wait for the CVS first BEFORE taking NCLEX (in the case that you apply to NY directly).
This is in a consideration that someone is in a hurry since I heard CVS takes timeeeeee to come out.
Do I have a point?
tee-ay

Also, forgot to add that you need to be petitioned by an employer for the green card. You cannot do this completely on your own. So you have to allow for this.................

cringeguy · Feb 28, 2005

For the sake of discussion, if I passed NCLEX in NM, can I already apply for endorsement to NY?

Or do I have to get a visa/green card to NM first before I can apply for endorsement to NY?

Thanks,

cringeguy

suzanne4, RN · Feb 28, 2005

For the sake of discussion, if I passed NCLEX in NM, can I already apply for endorsement to NY?
Or do I have to get a visa/green card to NM first before I can apply for endorsement to NY?
Thanks,
cringeguy

You can apply for endorsement, butit is up to NY whether they will accept your credentials or not. You then have the waiting time for

getting NY to issue you the license, plus things only get delayed this way.

If your goal is to work in NY, then apply for initial licensure in NY, you still need to do Visa Screen also. Your choice, but I definitely do not recommend it.

andrei14 · Feb 28, 2005

Hello everyone! I´m new to this site, I found it just yesterday.

At first I was very happy about all the informations but now, after reading the hole "International Nursing" Thread almost twice, I´m absolutely confused and as it seems, have to start from zero, too.

I planned to immigrate to California in July 2006(should be California because we`ve got relatives there), but now I think it`s impossible, isn`t it?. I also planned to pass to TOEFL ( Next Generation) in September 2005, pass the NCLEX (in London) in November 2005. But I must get through the Credential Evaluation (for which I need the TOEFL?!), too. And then apply for Visa Acreen Cerificate, and then I need an employer who petitioned the Greencard,and then there`s the long processing-time in California, and then it`s 2010!

It would be nice if someone could give me a guideline through that, or if mentioned somewhere else- post the link. Maybe it was too many information in too less time for me, but I couldn`t find that in here. I think I won`t be ableto pass TOEFL and NCLEX earlier in order to save time. Must be another way.........

suzanne4, RN · Feb 28, 2005

Hello everyone! I´m new to this site, I found it just yesterday.
At first I was very happy about all the informations but now, after reading the hole "International Nursing" Thread almost twice, I´m absolutely confused and as it seems, have to start from zero, too.
I planned to immigrate to California in July 2006(should be California because we`ve got relatives there), but now I think it`s impossible, isn`t it?. I also planned to pass to TOEFL ( Next Generation) in September 2005, pass the NCLEX (in London) in November 2005. But I must get through the Credential Evaluation (for which I need the TOEFL?!), too. And then apply for Visa Acreen Cerificate, and then I need an employer who petitioned the Greencard,and then there`s the long processing-time in California, and then it`s 2010!
It would be nice if someone could give me a guideline through that, or if mentioned somewhere else- post the link. Maybe it was too many information in too less time for me, but I couldn`t find that in here. I think I won`t be ableto pass TOEFL and NCLEX earlier in order to save time. Must be another way.........

Very simple. Do not apply to California for initial licensure. Credential Verification doesn't require English, but the Visa Screen Certificate does. Two completely different things.

If you want to get things done quicker, I would sit for the IELTS series as soon as possbile, the academic branch with the speaking section. You should then be able to get your letter for ATT within 4 to 6 months if you apply to NY now. The reason I prefer NY is that they will actually issue you a hard license as soon as you pass NCLEX, California will not without a Social Security Number.

Start with this and I will help you thru the rest. It can easily be done. If you need the applications for NY, please send me an e-mail and I will forward them to you.

Now, stop and take a deep breath. It really isn't so bad......... :balloons: