South university online graduate school of nursing (msn family nurse practitioner)

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As a licensed RN in the State of Ohio, I have decided to go back to school for my MSN. I want to become a Family Nurse Practitioner. In researching different schools, I have applied for both private, not-for-profit, and for-profit schools. In the end, I chose South University (located in Savannah, Georgia) based solely on the perception that it will accommodate my lifestyle/responsibilities.

AllNurses.com is an excellent site for nurses to network. That is why I chose this forum to discuss my educational experiences with South University. For the next 2 years or so, I will be updating weekly/biweekly on my experiences in South University's Online Graduate Nursing Program. As a graduate nursing student, I want to give other nurses a real idea of what they are signing up for with this university.

Additional Details:

Start Date: June 2nd, 2014

Program: Online Graduate Nursing Program

Track: Family Nurse Practitioner

As I was researching different graduate nursing programs I had specific criteria in mind.

1. It had to be accredited (and it is by the CCNE).

2. It had to be a flexible, online program (and it is).

3. It had to accept all licensed nurses in good standing, regardless of the amount of experience they have (and it does).

4. It had to be affordable/doable. For me, I refused to pay more than $35,000 for a program. The Family Nurse Practitioner program currently costs ($30,833).

5. It had to legitimately educate me to operate within my scope of practice, ethically and efficiently.

6. It had to be well-respected, at least insofar as future employers (or even your state board of nursing) do not laugh/roll their eyes when they hear where you graduated from.

Additional Factors To Take Into Consideration:

1. South University currently has some very bad reviews on consumeraffairs.com and onlinedegreereviews.org.

2. "For Profit" schools have a universally bad reputation as scam schools. "Buyer beware."

Disclaimer:

Before I go any further, I'd like to reinforce the fact that my opinions are my own and are not meant to reflect poorly on anyone. I will try to be as objective as possible in reviewing the school and the education I receive. No names will be mentioned, but I will discuss specific classes to give the reader as much information as possible.

Please keep in mind that admissions requirements, classes, tuition, and circumstances are relative to my situation. They will likely change over time, so I'm not entirely too sure how applicable any of this will be to others.

But for what it's worth, I'd like to give everyone an insiders look at a "For Profit," online graduate school of nursing.

Admissions Review:

Admissions Requirements


    [*=2]GPA of 3.0 or Higher
    [*=2]Unrestricted, Valid RN License in Resident State
    [*=2]Undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]3 Professional References (One Must Be an MSN Prepared Nurse)
    [*=2]Goal Statement
    [*=2]Transcripts from all universities you have ever attended
    [*=2]Resume or Curriculum Vitae.

Paper-Work to Be Aware of:


    [*=2]Online Application Form
    [*=2]Transcript Request Form
    [*=2]Goal Statement (Information about yourself as a professional, as long as what program you are applying for and what you hope to do with the degree. Why do you want to become a nurse practitioner? How will it impact your life?)
    [*=2]3 Professional References
    [*=2]Curriculum Vitae or Resume
    [*=2]Syllabus and Course Catalog (with web address) of both of your undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]Practicum/Clinical Site Form: This school wants you to identify 5 potential clinical sites for each of five clinical courses. They are not contracts and are not set in stone. They are merely there to provide incentive for RNs to begin looking independently.
    [*=2]FAFSA (Unless you are an international student.)
    [*=2]Student Loan Paperwork (If you are like me and will rely upon an unsubsidized student loan with a fixed interest rate).

Orientation to Online Classrooms:

If accepted into this program you must complete the online orientation class. It prepares you for where to find student resources (such as an online library which has most of your text-books), documents (lectures/powerpoints), student email, and technical support. It teaches you where your grades are stored and what will be expected of you in classes. To be seen as having good attendance/participation you are expected to contribute 4 times a week on 4 separate days. Contribution is defined as posting an assignment in the discussion, turning in an assignment, posting a question for the professor, and etc. If you do not make at least 2 contributions for 2 consecutive weeks, admissions will automatically boot you from the program.

Additionally, a student cannot score below 80% in any given class, without being on disqualified from the program. So, in other words, no Cs allowed.

As long as a student plays by these rules and actually puts forth effort (taking the program seriously), it seems that all will be well.

Another aspect of online education you should be aware of is that many essays and papers that will be written are going to be screened by anti-plagiarism software.

Admissions Review:

My admissions representative was outstanding and kept in touch with me every other day or via email. If she didn't have the answer to one of my questions, she would get back to me promptly. She was very patient but also helped motivate me to get things in ASAP so that I could begin in June. I finished Applying two and a half weeks before June 2nd and was around 10 days after I applied (just in time). June 2nd isn't a very popular start date. If you are applying in the Spring or Summer, keep in mind that you will face a lot more competition.

Your Admissions representative will stay in contact with you for the duration of your education.

Academic Counselor Review:

My academic adviser was very knowledgeable and helpful. I have had better luck contacting him via email than through phone, but it seems like that is the standard in an online environment. Like my Admissions rep, he has always been on time telephone appointments. He explained that his role was to register you for the correct classes and notify you asap when you are not meeting attendance/participation/grade requirements to stay in the program. He is also the middle-man between me and my professors. If for whatever reason, an instructor is not responding to me within the 24hrs time-frame they have to reply, I can call up my academic adviser. (It's 24hrs on a week-day and 48hrs on a holiday/weekend).

The program is typically one class at a time with classes ranging from 5 to 11.5 weeks.

My Academic Counselor told me that I could double up on my classes, as long as I had financial aid approve of it and the ability to succeed. After convincing him and being cleared by financial aid (I would just take out more of my loan than previously planned upon), I was rescheduled. So, I have officially doubled up the first two classes of the program, Role of the Advanced Practice Nurse and Advanced Pathophysiology.

Then I will take Advanced Theoretical Perspectives for Nursing on its own.

After that, I will double up Nursing Research Methods (an 11 week class) with Advanced Nursing Practice I and II.

Advanced health & Physical Assessment is the first course with a clinical requirement (80hrs). Every class after that (except Graduate Project in Nursing) has a clinical requirement of 180hrs.

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Tuition:

The first year of loans period I will be paying for range from 06/02/14 to 01/26/14 and will cost me approximately $16,530. I do not yet know what the rest of my classes from 04/13/15-11/30/15 will cost.

Okay that is all for now! Please post questions you have and I will do my best to answer them!!

I am considering South University FNP and I was wondering how your classes are going so far?

Hi lhflanurse!

I was recently accepted into South University and was trying to decide about when to start. I had some questions about the program. I would like to email you privately if that is ok?

Hi all-

i just completed my app for SU Adult NP program to start in December. I am also impressed with what I have seen and heard so far. Thanks to everyone for the great info.

I have a question for you...it's sounds like several of you in the program are not working right now. I will be working full time throughout the program. I can adjust my schedule and take vacation days to complete clinical hours...but based on your feedback do you think this will be doable? I did work full time while completing my BSN online so I am familiar with the work loads. However, the clinical hours has me a bit nervous!

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!

I am currently set to begin the master's program and complete the FNP. I have read some horrible reviews for South University. I am very nervous. I have also been in contact with admissions from Kaplan. The reviews are better, but it will take a year longer to complete. I look at the loss of income over a year and I don't want to do that either. I wish someone could wave a magic wand that would let me know which one would be better. It is comforting to hear the positive words on here. Any other comments would be helpful, either way.

Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.

I am apply to South, and possibly Wikes and Notre Dame, all online programs, first 2 have FNP, other two don't. Not sure what would be best right now

Just going to give a brief update. Basically, I am far into this program and have a better idea of its pros and cons.

Pros:

You don't need experience to become an FNP here.

Enrollment is relatively straightforward.

Classes are taken one at a time

Online

Cons:

There are no teachers, only "facilitators" who do not develop their own course content, rubrics, or assignments. Therefore, there is a limit to how committed these individuals are. They do not teach you anything. You teach you.

There are no power points or lectures over book information. The "lectures" they do have are basic, supplementary info for completing assignments.

The quality of each class varies on whoever put the content together. I have noticed some inconsistencies. In Nursing Research Methods, I noticed that there was REAL and ACTUAL information being presented. Still, it wasn't enough to cover the concepts we were learning in the book. But, it was way better than other classes (i.e. Advanced Nursing Practice I).

No syllabi for classes.

Hard to know how many credits each class is.

Difficult to change the things that are troublesome or hard about the LACK of information being taught. There is no education going on in their MSN program. It is completely self-taught.

In retrospect, I'm not sure I would have chosen this college after all. I have left a myriad of reviews during end or course surveys, but have yet to see any result that translates into real-time changes to content.

I am apply to South, Drexel and possibly Wikes and Notre Dame, all online programs, first 2 have FNP, other two don't. Not sure what would be best right now

No matter what, I would go for the FNP. I know a few Pediatric NPs and Adult/Gero Primary care NPs. They are all saying they wish they had gone the FNP route.

I'm in the process of completing my app for south university fnp program. Does anyone not get accepted to a for profit school?

I think the GPA has to be laughable. And if you are an international student, your education visa doesn't count 100% online schools (they don't justify your presence in the US). I learned that from a friend of mine who is Korean and her visa has run out. She was scrambling to be accepted somewhere before here education/work visa ran out.

I am currently set to begin the master's program and complete the FNP. I have read some horrible reviews for South University. I am very nervous. I have also been in contact with admissions from Kaplan. The reviews are better, but it will take a year longer to complete. I look at the loss of income over a year and I don't want to do that either. I wish someone could wave a magic wand that would let me know which one would be better. It is comforting to hear the positive words on here. Any other comments would be helpful, either way.

I am still trying to figure out if this was a good decision or not. I hope I can be more helpful. I'm trying to contact some of my peers and seniors in the program to get their opinion. So far, most of the opinions I am blogging/writing about are consistent with a consensus of 6-10 other people in my classes or further ahead in the program... I wish you good luck!

Hi all-

i just completed my app for SU Adult NP program to start in December. I am also impressed with what I have seen and heard so far. Thanks to everyone for the great info.

I have a question for you...it's sounds like several of you in the program are not working right now. I will be working full time throughout the program. I can adjust my schedule and take vacation days to complete clinical hours...but based on your feedback do you think this will be doable? I did work full time while completing my BSN online so I am familiar with the work loads. However, the clinical hours has me a bit nervous!

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!

Honestly, I have no idea as I am yet to take clinical classes. I think as long as you can commit to two days of clinical on top of schoolwork and working full time, you will be fine. It is a time that all students want to rip their hair out and cannot wait to be done with, though (from what it sounds like). I can ask around and talk to students further ahead in the program for you.

I am considering South University FNP and I was wondering how your classes are going so far?

In terms of being intelligent enough to complete assignments, don't worry. But, what I think is very difficult about this program is the amount of information that is self-taught. To be completely honest, they do not go out of their way to give you and education. There are no power points or lectures over book readings (which is where the real information you need to know is). The lectures they do provide are basic intros into completing assignments. To be honest, I have taken 6 classes with this university and could have done them all without reading the book even once.

Does that mean I'm learning a lot? No. In the first 6 classes, there are no exams, syllabi, lectures, or power points. You get an eBook and are told what to read. Then you complete assignments/papers. I am concerned with how well me and other students are retaining what we learn/read. Also, it is difficult to read as much as is assigned. I mean, we are all busy with family, work, and completing the assignments on time. It's hard to manage the rest of your education. The assignments are required to pass the class. But the readings are what we need to pass a certification exam and not kill anyone in practice.

Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.

Modesttruth thanks for the info, I am definately going FNP route, looked into Chamberlain as well and they have FNP, is adult geritriac

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