Smoking

[CoffeeRTC]

Any of your facilities smoke free? We will be pretty soon. I'm not a smoker and am a little glad that we will be cutting down on all the breaks, but on the other side....that means no smoking for residents. Isn't that thier home?? How does/ would the state look at this?

[donmomofnine]

If the state is now going to decide if I can smoke in my home or not I can only pray that I get hit by a train and squashed the day before I am forced to go into one of those "homes?"

I guess my point is that no one is "forcing" people to come to our non-smoking LTC! People do have a choice and they CHOOSE whether or not to live where I work! Smokers have freedom to live where they can smoke and nonsmokers have freedom to live (and work) smokefree.

[donmomofnine]

If the state is now going to decide if I can smoke in my home or not I can only pray that I get hit by a train and squashed the day before I am forced to go into one of those "homes?"

I guess my point is that no one is "forcing" people to come to our non-smoking LTC! People do have a choice and they CHOOSE whether or not to live where I work! Smokers have freedom to live where they can smoke and nonsmokers have freedom to live (and work) smokefree.

[Dixiedi]

My point was that non-smokers have the right to be smoke free far more often than smokers have the right to smoke. And that makes no sense because it has been definatively proven second hand smoke is no more dangerous to your health than many colognes are dangerous to my health. Annoying, smelly and aggrivating to a pre-exsisting condition. Oh that's so terrible.

The states are continuing to whittle my freedoms away on the behalf of the noisey ones.

[Dixiedi]

My point was that non-smokers have the right to be smoke free far more often than smokers have the right to smoke. And that makes no sense because it has been definatively proven second hand smoke is no more dangerous to your health than many colognes are dangerous to my health. Annoying, smelly and aggrivating to a pre-exsisting condition. Oh that's so terrible.

The states are continuing to whittle my freedoms away on the behalf of the noisey ones.

[jkaee]

I guess my point is that no one is "forcing" people to come to our non-smoking LTC! People do have a choice and they CHOOSE whether or not to live where I work! Smokers have freedom to live where they can smoke and nonsmokers have freedom to live (and work) smokefree.

I don't want to get into the rights of smokers debate, but the problem is that almost every facility I have worked in or heard of is smoke free. So, it's really not an option for potential residents to just live somewhere else. I hate to think of some of the residents not being allowed to smoke, especially when one considers all they have already given up (freedom, independence, privacy, and sleep just to name a few), but as I said, it's not even an option in the places I've seen. I just think it's a double standard, we are drilled how this is their home, and the resident should be able to make as many decisions for themselves as they safely can, but yet they can't go and have a smoke if they want to, or they are forced to quit. Just doesn't seem fair to me, but I can see why many facilities choose to do this.

[jkaee]

I guess my point is that no one is "forcing" people to come to our non-smoking LTC! People do have a choice and they CHOOSE whether or not to live where I work! Smokers have freedom to live where they can smoke and nonsmokers have freedom to live (and work) smokefree.

I don't want to get into the rights of smokers debate, but the problem is that almost every facility I have worked in or heard of is smoke free. So, it's really not an option for potential residents to just live somewhere else. I hate to think of some of the residents not being allowed to smoke, especially when one considers all they have already given up (freedom, independence, privacy, and sleep just to name a few), but as I said, it's not even an option in the places I've seen. I just think it's a double standard, we are drilled how this is their home, and the resident should be able to make as many decisions for themselves as they safely can, but yet they can't go and have a smoke if they want to, or they are forced to quit. Just doesn't seem fair to me, but I can see why many facilities choose to do this.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

ignore, sorry

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

ignore, sorry

[purplemania, BSN, RN]

we are smoke free. Employees who smoke must go to their car to do so, or on the city sidewalk. Patients get patches. Visitors must go out on sidewalk or leave. Actually went better than I anticipated. Of course, I can remember when pts used to smoke in their room!

[purplemania, BSN, RN]

we are smoke free. Employees who smoke must go to their car to do so, or on the city sidewalk. Patients get patches. Visitors must go out on sidewalk or leave. Actually went better than I anticipated. Of course, I can remember when pts used to smoke in their room!

[mlolsonny]

I work PRN in a facility that got cited by state for not providing an indoor place for current smoking residents that should have been provided for. I guess according to MN Dept of Health, current residents who have had the opportunity to smoke indoors, must be "grandfathered" in and be given an indoor room to continue smoking indoors, even when a facility goes smoke-free.

[mlolsonny]

I work PRN in a facility that got cited by state for not providing an indoor place for current smoking residents that should have been provided for. I guess according to MN Dept of Health, current residents who have had the opportunity to smoke indoors, must be "grandfathered" in and be given an indoor room to continue smoking indoors, even when a facility goes smoke-free.