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Hey I just saw on the news that a thousand people have been quarentined at a hospital in Toronto!
Do you all know anything about this?
I hope our Toronto members are alright.
Is this virus realy something to be worried about or is it kind of being hyped like the shark attack thing?
Paul
Epaminondas,
Interesting post, but it leaves out one of the factors WHO supposedly looks at when doing a travel advisory: community trnasmission. So far all the SARS cases are traced back to the original and transmission has only occured in health care facilities, homes of the infected and among a religious group sharing close quarters. There has been basically no casual transmissions to the general public so tourists are not considered at risk of getting SARS!!! If WHO suggested that health care workers and those at risk of getting SARS should not travel I think no one would disagree. The issue with WHO is that they are spreading unecessary hysteria about a disease. Even the CDC disagrees with their advisory so I don't think this is a Canadian political issue like you imply. The CDC has a lot more respect in my book than Mel Lastman.
Secondly, the world does not have to cooperate with WHO, because an ADVISORY is not a quarantine order. WHO simply doesn't have that authority and they aren't doing anything in combatting SARS. They are not in charge of anything relating to Canadian or American public health policy. The ministry of health and health care wokers here are the ones working to contain this outbreak. We aren't letting tourists come in and hang out with the SARS patients or anything. If tourists are here to see a musical and stay in a hotel room can you tell me how they are going to get SARS? If I believed for a second that the general population was at risk I wouldn't be at an internet cafe disagreeing with WHO.
Epaminondas,
Interesting post, but it leaves out one of the factors WHO supposedly looks at when doing a travel advisory: community trnasmission. So far all the SARS cases are traced back to the original and transmission has only occured in health care facilities, homes of the infected and among a religious group sharing close quarters. There has been basically no casual transmissions to the general public so tourists are not considered at risk of getting SARS!!! If WHO suggested that health care workers and those at risk of getting SARS should not travel I think no one would disagree. The issue with WHO is that they are spreading unecessary hysteria about a disease. Even the CDC disagrees with their advisory so I don't think this is a Canadian political issue like you imply. The CDC has a lot more respect in my book than Mel Lastman.
Secondly, the world does not have to cooperate with WHO, because an ADVISORY is not a quarantine order. WHO simply doesn't have that authority and they aren't doing anything in combatting SARS. They are not in charge of anything relating to Canadian or American public health policy. The ministry of health and health care wokers here are the ones working to contain this outbreak. We aren't letting tourists come in and hang out with the SARS patients or anything. If tourists are here to see a musical and stay in a hotel room can you tell me how they are going to get SARS? If I believed for a second that the general population was at risk I wouldn't be at an internet cafe disagreeing with WHO.
I'm really upset that Billy Joel and Elton John cancelled their concert schedualed at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto this coming week. .... A little reflection of the impact of the WHO advisory.
Hands up to Stars on Ice ...no cancellations there ....a great show with a great line up of skaters including Todd Elderidge, Sale and Pelltier, Kurt Browning who was fabulous as usual and Alexi Yagudin. An excellent distraction from SARS at least for a few hours.
I'm really upset that Billy Joel and Elton John cancelled their concert schedualed at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto this coming week. .... A little reflection of the impact of the WHO advisory.
Hands up to Stars on Ice ...no cancellations there ....a great show with a great line up of skaters including Todd Elderidge, Sale and Pelltier, Kurt Browning who was fabulous as usual and Alexi Yagudin. An excellent distraction from SARS at least for a few hours.
Torontorn- looks like WHO is back peddaling real hard. I also hope that this doesn't affect other attractions in TO, although I haen't been there in a long time, I did live in the Markham, Aurora areas, 2 of my children were born at the Newmarket hospital.
I lived there from 1981-1989. I just loved going to the TO Zoo.
I also really enjoyed going to China Town.
Here are some more links
20th SARS death
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0006.html
Guess WHO's backing off
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0007.html
Strain finally gets to Nurse's
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0008.html
Toronto the Bad
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0032.html
More than just in spirit
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0046.html
Border Warning
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0047.html
Summer concert backers jittery
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0049.html
China pulls plug on fun
http://www.canoe.ca/ToroontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0050.html
Asia plans tighter SARS screening
http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2003/04/26/74004-ap.html
Spread of SARS boost to terrorist organizations,British Medical Expert
http://www.canoe.ca/War On Terrorism/2003/04/26/74015-ap.html
Torontorn- looks like WHO is back peddaling real hard. I also hope that this doesn't affect other attractions in TO, although I haen't been there in a long time, I did live in the Markham, Aurora areas, 2 of my children were born at the Newmarket hospital.
I lived there from 1981-1989. I just loved going to the TO Zoo.
I also really enjoyed going to China Town.
Here are some more links
20th SARS death
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0006.html
Guess WHO's backing off
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0007.html
Strain finally gets to Nurse's
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0008.html
Toronto the Bad
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0032.html
More than just in spirit
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0046.html
Border Warning
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0047.html
Summer concert backers jittery
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0049.html
China pulls plug on fun
http://www.canoe.ca/ToroontoNews/ts.ts-04-27-0050.html
Asia plans tighter SARS screening
http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2003/04/26/74004-ap.html
Spread of SARS boost to terrorist organizations,British Medical Expert
http://www.canoe.ca/War On Terrorism/2003/04/26/74015-ap.html
I personally would prefer Billy Joel and Elton John give up music altogether.... but that's another post!:)
I have heard that those in not in patient care areas are going to be able to work without masks anymore. I am hopeful that this will be contained and the hysteria will stop. I have lost so much respect for the mainstream media in the last few years that I can't read a newspaper without being annoyed at how they manipulate the public into being afraid of EVERYTHING in existence. Of course by the time the media can't report on SARS anymore, they'll have West Nile to terrify people with....
I personally would prefer Billy Joel and Elton John give up music altogether.... but that's another post!:)
I have heard that those in not in patient care areas are going to be able to work without masks anymore. I am hopeful that this will be contained and the hysteria will stop. I have lost so much respect for the mainstream media in the last few years that I can't read a newspaper without being annoyed at how they manipulate the public into being afraid of EVERYTHING in existence. Of course by the time the media can't report on SARS anymore, they'll have West Nile to terrify people with....
sixes
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aintitfunny
Thank you for the important information. You founf someone who didn't know this. I don't have much experience in the hospital setting as i worked in home care. The only infections I had to worry about was VRE and MRSA.