Sadly, discrmination against male nurses still rampant in job applic process

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Hey guys, I highly encourage you to try hard and strive for excellence during your nursing school career.

But I just came here to vent, because I have graduated from a BSN nursing program last year, May 2014.

Come to find out that several of my FEMALE nursing classmates are working as some kind of RN. Whether it's in a care home, long-term assisted living facility, an acute-care hospital job (which is very hard to get here in my area, if you have ZERO experience as an RN!!!), several of my FEMALE classmates have RN jobs.

Life is so #(*U#$*^%# unfair!

For me, I have been working as a nurse aid/tech at a hospital in my area, since July of last year.

I am proud to work for the facility that I work for.

However, I have passed my NCLEX-RN board exam, have my state RN license, yet I am working as a tech?

Here in my neck of the wood, you have to work as an aide/tech for certain amount of time before you're eligible to apply for an RN new graduate program. This program is offered at the hospital that I work for. However, to get admitted into this program,...there is stiff/high competition. I also heard through the grapevine that applicants need to be a member of one of the hospitals committee to get into this program. So far, I am not invited to join a committee, let alone, I have asked one of the floor managers if I could join his committee, only to have him change the date and time of meeting last minute, to prevent me from attending the montly meeting (which I thought was downright dirty!).

Anyhow, getting back to the point of my thread, I found out last week that a female classmate of mine, who was a good friend of mine, is working as a med-surg RN at a hopsital in town!

She has zero experience in acute care nursing. Yet, how the hell did she get hired to work med-surg at that hospital?!!!

For me, I am working as an aide, waiting to apply for a new graduate position.

I have also submitted job applications for RN positions at other hospitals in my area, only to get no phone calls, or when I call their HR office, they tell me that my application is on "hold" because there are no openings available.

Furthermore, I also saw another female classmate's picture, in one of the local newspaper's article (featured a story about that hospital's healthcare system). The caption read " XXXXX (

For her, I am happy and proud that she's now working and getting RN PAY RATE.

But for me, I am getting flustered and frustrated that I am 'behind the curve' not getting paid what I should get paid, not using my RN skills that i have learned in school.

I don't know guys.

Overall, I still feel that there is heavy discrimination against males when it comes to the hiring process of RN's and even nurse aides/techs, in not only my area, but other parts of the US.

I am also upset because I called up that former friend classmate, asking her about her job, how she likes it, etc, only to have me leave her a voicemail to call me back. I also sent her a text message and email, asking her to email me back, or call me back.

So far, no phone calls.

Seems like my former classmate and friends in school are smug/complacent that they're working as RN's, while as for me, I am dreading everyday, and waiting and waiting for me to get admitted into my hospitals "new graduate" program for nurses who recently graduated from school, with zero/zilch nursing experience.

Specializes in Medical Surgical/Addiction/Mental Health.

I can't speak to your personal experience, but I am happy to share mine. Each nursing position for which I applied (after graduation), I received an interview. I graduated in 2011 when it was also difficult for new grads to secure a nursing position. When I was called in for an interview, I would ask the recruiter why I was selected for an interview out of all of the applicants. Over and over I was told because my resume/CV was easy-to-read. So, I would think the first step is to make sure your resume is easy-to-understand. I can send a copy of mine to you if you would like.

The interview is the next important step. I cannot tell you how important it is to be a human being during the interview. This is the opportunity to demonstrate your soft skills. You must be personable and include everyone who is interviewing you in the conversation. I make eye contact with each person sitting across from me. When I am speaking, I am including everyone. That shows confidence and your ability to command attention. You are also demonstrating respect.

There are always two questions I ask at the end of an interview. First, do you mind sharing with me the needed attributes to be a successful team member? Do you mind providing me constructive feedback of our interview? The first indicates to me whether or not I would be a good fit with the team. If you are asked to shadow a nurse, ask her/him the same question. If I do not possess the attributes needed, I won't waste my time. I was told once that I cannot be afraid to lift. That was a red flag. I was not going to work with a team where I was going to be the lifting person. So, I declined the offer of employment. Finally, ask how the interview went. Ask in which areas you can use improvement. Most will be honest and tell you. This is how I have, over the years, been offered multiple positions. I took the feedback to heart and made the necessary changes.

I started working for a school of nursing. After I was hired, the dean told me that she is happy I am onboard because she wanted a guy to be the male nursing students' advocate. I didn't get the position because I am a guy. There was one other male interviewing. But it has been my experience that I landed positions because I interview well and because of my experience, although limited.

Good luck to you.

Sixth paragraph (emphasis mine):

"The report controls for occupation, major, hours worked, parenthood, and many other factors...."

I read the article and the pdf research (which did not list citations at the end); what I want to know is if they did a break down of the occupation?

We all know it's unfair to compare male nurse ER pay vs female nurse M/S pay.

Yes the article talked about supervisory positions in other fields, but we are not privy to their inner workings compared to Nursing where even nursing students know that ER pays more than MS.

Thoughts?

To OP: I will only condone using the discrimination trump card when you're literally minutes from going homeless.

Specializes in Critical Care.

You will always find discrimination if you're looking for it and OP, it seems like you're looking pretty hard.

This story is from a year ago. Ecstatic, did you find a job? How long did it take?

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
This story is from a year ago. Ecstatic, did you find a job? How long did it take?

OP hasn't logged on since creating this post. I doubt we'll find out.

OP profile gender states he is a female.... very interesting....

OP hasn't logged on since creating this post. I doubt we'll find out.

Oh, ok. Maybe he gave up??

OP profile gender states he is a female.... very interesting....

Interesting or just plain weird. From reading all this it looks like being male wasn't the reason he (she??) wasn't being hired!

I haven't read this entire thread, but as a nurse manager, I LOVE male nurses because, in general, they are LOW DRAMA and LESS HORMONAL!

Just like in other industries and job search, sometimes is helps to know someone in the industry who can "vouch" for you when applying for jobs. I already had at least two "call me when you graduate" offers because of who I know (and I haven't even started nursing school!).

It might also be that there is a lack of opportunity in the area you're living in. In California, they can't churn out male grads fast enough and male nurses are in high demand (due to lifting and other duties). In Las Vegas, they're trying to lure male nurses with higher pay and lower cost of living. While this might not be everyone's experience, it is the case for me.

I suggest changing your attitude and network more within the industry. Relying on your classmates and looking at others' successes are helping you. You also have to remember that your classmates have to live their lives and helping you out may not be on their priority list. It is not because you are man but because they have to focus on themselves first. Finally, you might have to consider moving to a more favorable area to apply for jobs. If I read it correctly, Hawaii is a "small" market and the jobs may be uber competitive. Try finding an area in the mainland that would be more conducive to your job search.

So you're having an issue finding a job, are you marketing yourself correctly? How about taking extra classes while looking for work? ACLS, PALS, and a bunch of other courses that can make you marketable. How do you dress for your interviews? are you a slob? are you unkempt and look, smell, speak like the last person in world I would trust to take care of me? How is your work history at your present job, do you have "issues" such as tardiness, excessive disciplinary issues, or personality issues?

Sometimes you need a fresh start- Go to where no one knows you and start looking for work there. How about the military? They are in need of nurses, the prison, and school systems also needs nurses. Expand your horizons, and stop sounding sorry for yourself. Good luck with your endeavours...

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
So you're having an issue finding a job, are you marketing yourself correctly? How about taking extra classes while looking for work? ACLS, PALS, and a bunch of other courses that can make you marketable. How do you dress for your interviews? are you a slob? are you unkempt and look, smell, speak like the last person in world I would trust to take care of me? How is your work history at your present job, do you have "issues" such as tardiness, excessive disciplinary issues, or personality issues?

Sometimes you need a fresh start- Go to where no one knows you and start looking for work there. How about the military? They are in need of nurses, the prison, and school systems also needs nurses. Expand your horizons, and stop sounding sorry for yourself. Good luck with your endeavours...

OP hasn't visited the site since the day this was posted. I doubt they'll see your post and certainly hope they've had luck in the year and a half since posting.

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