RN's accountable for MD's? What do you think?

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As an RN on a med surg unit your manager tells you that according to the plan of care for stroke te patient is to get test A, B, C on day 2, and get started on meds A, B. You are to see that the docs either order these tests or write in the progress notes the reason why not. The charts will be audited for compliance by the MD's and if they do not meet standards the RN(s) that cared for the patient will have to account for why not.

I argue that RN's are not responsible for MD's practice, and if there is a problem the docs should be doing their own program and auditing. Sure, if I notice the pt is at immediate risk I will mention it to the MD, and expect a response. I have also gone up the MD chain of command when necessary, but don't think the proposed plan should be left on nursing shoulders, or that nurses should be counselled when the doc does something wrong.

Am I out of line?

Specializes in ER.

Thank you alll- sometimes we all need a little confirmation that it's the system, not us that's crazy. Now the question is- is this a battle worth fighting, or should we all just nod and ignore them?

Hey, if you've got the energy to fight...go for it!! Maybe you can edumacate them and they'll actually listen to you...if you've got decent management.

Gotta admit I've been guilty of ignoring a silly administrative directive..and I've seen this kind of passive resistence work in time (and the more who participate the better it works.) ;)

mattsmom81-

I have also ignored some stupid administrative rule once or twice. For awhile, the DON wanted us to use a stamp that said:

Physician__________

Date & Time________

We were suppose use this stamp everytime we took a verbal or telephone order so the doctors could be reminded that they needed to sign stuff. HELLO??? These doctors have AT least 12 years of education behind them. I should not have to tell them that they need to sign their names when they know darn well they are suppose to sign. These people are making life and death decisions, for crying out loud!! The nurses shouldn't have to lead them by a nosering for everything.

Canoehead-I would argue your facility's new policy. It stinks!!

Specializes in ER.

WE have a stamp too, (!)and a little sticky that med records uses when they send charts around for missing signatures. Maybe this isn't a nursing problem- but a medial records problem?

Specializes in ER.

WE have a stamp too, (!)and a little sticky that med records uses when they send charts around for missing signatures. Maybe this isn't a nursing problem- but a medical records problem?

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