Rn in Italy become an Rn in Ontario

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Hello,

I am a Nursing student in the University of Bologna , Italy. Mine is a first cycle bachelor degree program that already allows graduated registred nurses to work without needing to attend further studies . I'd like to know what kind of courses are generally asked to international nurses to take ? Do nursing students in Canada use the NANDA diagnosis book ? And if anybody has any idea if Italian university Is considered for the accreditation at a good level.

thankyou, can I ask you how did you manage to get the License?

. Yes, the only way is get through that process , ofocourse.

So can I ask if would you suggest me to work 2 years In Italy ( is it a 12 moths work experience at least ?) and then start the process for the license ( or even before ofocourse )

I was educated in the US and was non-comparable and had to take IENCAP even though so many people before me, for years and years, were accepted by CNO after having a degree from the university where I got mine in the US. I stopped looking for logic, because there isn't any.

If I were you I would work as a nurse in Italy for a few years. Even then, it doesn't necessarily guarantee you will have enough points for immigration. Working will also help you to save money for this process--just the paperwork and exams alone will be a few thousand dollars, and more if you have to take courses. You will also need to take an english exam and have it renewed when it expires as it is a requirement. Since the process takes so long, you should work as a nurse in Italy while you get your education assessed by NNAS. If you come to Canada first, you will not be working as a nurse and that year (potentially) that NNAS takes to assess your education will be a full year not working as a nurse, which leaves you with only two years before evidence of practice expires. This has happened to many people. They got halfway or more through the process and their evidence of recent practice expired and that was the end of that.

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I was educated in the US and was non-comparable and had to take IENCAP even though so many people before me, for years and years, were accepted by CNO after having a degree from the university where I got mine in the US. I stopped looking for logic, because there isn't any.

If I were you I would work as a nurse in Italy for a few years. Even then, it doesn't necessarily guarantee you will have enough points for immigration. Working will also help you to save money for this process--just the paperwork and exams alone will be a few thousand dollars, and more if you have to take courses. You will also need to take an english exam and have it renewed when it expires as it is a requirement. Since the process takes so long, you should work as a nurse in Italy while you get your education assessed by NNAS. If you come to Canada first, you will not be working as a nurse and that year (potentially) that NNAS takes to assess your education will be a full year not working as a nurse, which leaves you with only two years before evidence of practice expires. This has happened to many people. They got halfway or more through the process and their evidence of recent practice expired and that was the end of that.

Yes thank you a lot ! I have been thinking all day. Yes I need to take two years work here and then apply for pr through skilled work immigration class. Yes I'll need to keep on working while waiting . Yes I think the English exam won't be a problem . I hope to get accepted in the end for bridging also full one . It will be long difficult yea! Ah can I ask you , if is possibile to come as lpn and then turn to rn? I think that this could be a bad idea because this is what most of ien that doesn't succeed on getting the rn license and thy choose the lpn path maybe thinking that layer they will get the rn through its sepcific process . But if you work as lpn then you may have the PR requirement done but you may have lost the nursing work experience . What do you think if I can ask ?

Thankyou

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@casoclinco, in Ontario, for the past 12 years, it has been common for IENs who were RNs in their home countries to apply to be assessed for both RN and PN. If CNO advised them that they would have to undergo bridging to meet the RN requirement, but they could not afford to attend school and to support themselves on a minimum wage job, they chose the option to become licensed as RPNs (Ontario doesn't use the term LPN, they use the term Registered Practical Nurse).

The results of the past assessments cannot really predict the results of future assessments, because in September 2016 the regulatory bodies changed the way they interpret IENs' NNAS advisory reports and this has made the process become more favorable to IENs becoming licensed as RNs.

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@casoclinco, in Ontario, for the past 12 years, it has been common for IENs who were RNs in their home countries to apply to be assessed for both RN and PN. If CNO advised them that they would have to undergo bridging to meet the RN requirement, but they could not afford to attend school and to support themselves on a minimum wage job, they chose the option to become licensed as RPNs (Ontario doesn't use the term LPN, they use the term Registered Practical Nurse).

The results of the past assessments cannot really predict the results of future assessments, because in September 2016 the regulatory bodies changed the way they interpret IENs' NNAS advisory reports and this has made the process become more favorable to IENs becoming licensed as RNs.

But those IEN in both cases, no matter if they chose to undergo the RN o RPN processes , they already had the PR requirement?

can I ask you for an advice if it is possible for you ?

My situation is really complicated! I am going to graduate in November 2017. Me and my fiance live in long distance relationship since when I started my university; our goal was to live togther after I finish my university and apply for this license, without any work experience here in Italy . That's why I couldn't think of working other two years more so other years living separately. So basically since yesterday I was always thinking start this process , through the temporary work permit option , right after graduation . Now I have to get used to the idea that I must find a job here first , get the 1 o 2 years experience, apply for PR, wait for PR application to be assessed. Then apply to NNAS, while working always here , and wait for CNO response . After that if they allow me to get the bridging program , or even take the IENCAP exam first , quit the job here finally move there for the rest of this . But this mean that I have to live for other 3 years in Italy so separately from my fiance. Well I am determined to wait all this time now. I wouldn't want to work as RPN but as RN, so I have to accept all of this process .

Sorry for getting myself the freedom to tell my situation ; I would really appreciate a lot any advice if there exist any way so I can try to get the license while being in Canada . For example , if I get accepted for RPN , and I don't have any work experience , I should still possess a PR? Is the RPN process easier ? Once I work as RPN in Ontario , for instance , I could move later to RN or I may not satisfy the ' recent nurisng working experience ' anymore ?

Thankyou !

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Hello from Germany, are you interested in German university studies too?

Greetings from Düsseldorf Karsten

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Those IENS who chose to undergo the assessment process for RPN or RN did not have to have their PR status during the initial assessment stages, but once they had completed their assessments and passed the NCLEX, they needed the PR for the final step to become registered with CNO. The Ontario job market has not been in a shortage cycle that was severe enough to warrant employer hiring nurses who require temporary work permits for many years.

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Hello from Germany, are you interested in German university studies too?

Greetings from Düsseldorf Karsten

What do you mean ? Further studies on nursing in Germany ? I have heard nurisng in Germany is a lower profile job with less autonomy than nurisng in Italy .

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Those IENS who chose to undergo the assessment process for RPN or RN did not have to have their PR status during the initial assessment stages, but once they had completed their assessments and passed the NCLEX, they needed the PR for the final step to become registered with CNO. The Ontario job market has not been in a shortage cycle that was severe enough to warrant employer hiring nurses who require temporary work permits for many years.

Excuse me , can I ask if you have it clear if, after having worked 2 years as RN in Italy, so started the NNAS process , just later , last step , after all potential steps such as IEncap , bridging, Nclex, just now apply for pr in order to get registred ? But how is it possibile to be accepted to any bridging program if one does not posses any work permit or study one or pr? This is quite confusing to me.

When first applying to NNAS is it mandatory I mean at that moment we have to choose if permanent or temporary permit ?

Thanks a lot again

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I understand that it is disappointing finding out your plans to reunite with your fiance and get on with your life as couple will likely be delayed. Their have been other IENs who came to Toronto to live with their fiance (under the same belief as you had), they went through the whole process to become licensed but at the end there wasn't any employer who could offer them a job because they required a work permit. In the end, they couldn't get licensed, couldn't work and they moved back to their home country. Both the IEN and the fiance are working in their home country now, but the IEN remembers it as difficult experience.

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You can do NNAS, IENCAP, NCLEX without PR status, if you need to do rncompetencies.ca you can do it with a study permit, you wil have to look at the eligibility criteria on the bridging program websites to find out if you have to have PR or can do it with a study permit.

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I understand that it is disappointing finding out your plans to reunite with your fiance and get on with your life as couple will likely be delayed. Their have been other IENs who came to Toronto to live with their fiance (under the same belief as you had), they went through the whole process to become licensed but at the end there wasn't any employer who could offer them a job because they required a work permit. In the end, they couldn't get licensed, couldn't work and they moved back to their home country. Both the IEN and the fiance are working in their home country now, but the IEN remembers it as difficult experience.

Yes, I understand this . Is so high the chance of ending up that way. At this view of facts , We are willing to wait living apart for few more years . Yes now first thing I do right after graduation is finding a full time nurisng job Here! I may start nnas process after one year work experience, and working while waiting , so they may turn to 2 years .

Thank you ! I don't know how I can express how much thankful I am for all the time and patience you have.

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You can start NNAS as soon as you graduate. To get pr via skilled route you will need 1560 hours paid work which is the equivalent of 1 year full time. This link will explain the skilled route Who can apply: Federal skilled workers

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