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Registration Verification from Saudi Council

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Hi! Been following the discussion about verification of nurse registration since last week and I decided to join this site to get some help and be of assistance, if possible.

Currently, I am applying for Further Assessment in Alberta's College and Association of Registered Nurses of Alberta (CARNA). At this stage, the only requirement I need is the Verification of Registration from the Saudi Commission for Health Specialties (SCFHS) or known as the Saudi Council. I was advised that it is done online so I paid and received a Certificate of Good Standing via email in a matter of minutes. I thought everything was fine but the problem has just get started from that point.

Two weeks ago, I sent the said certificate electronically but they advised me to have it printed and sent directly from its source that is Saudi Council. So I went there a couple of days back to ask them to send it as it is the requirement of CARNA (with the fee of sending to be paid by me) but they declined my request. They just gave me an envelope and instructed me to send it myself.

The dilemma did not end there because last night, CARNA emailed me that the certificate does not include the Initial Date of Registration and that their Nurse Consultant will call them with this concern. As for my end, I am planning to go back there and have the Verification of Nurse Registration Form filled up in addition to the good standing certificate. However, I would like to hear from you guys who have the same concern or been processing their CARNA registration or with any other jurisdiction (eg., NMC UK, AHPRA) that requires registration verification from Saudi Arabia.

Thank you!

NotReady4PrimeTime specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Just so you all know, every jurisdiction in Canada demands that verifications such as those for registration in good standing and education be provided directly from the regulatory body or faculty of nursing. This requirement is very clearly stated on their web sites in the appropriate section of their how-to-apply section. This is the only method of guaranteeing the documentation hasn't been tempered with in some way.

Hi. I had the same problem with you when I am applying for my Ahpra registration. I worked in the middle east for 4 years. Then, while I'm here in Australia I requested for them to send the good standing and verification of registration but they did and said the same thing to me as what happened to you. After that i am hopeless to get that Saudi council thing so I informed AHPRA about it luckily they are very considerate here so they told me to request a certificate from my manager or director where i worked for 4 years to certify that i really work as an RN. Then it really helps they considered it but I just don't know there in Canada. Hope it helps.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Thanks for that naverth. I hope CARNA could be as considerate as AHPRA because as what I heard from them, they stick to their requirement. Anyhow, they told me that their consultant will contact Saudi Council for that detail. As from my end, I submitted the hard copy of the Good Standing Certficate (although they informed me late about the issue on its completeness when I sent it via email) and am trying to have the Nurse Registration Verification Request Form filled out by the local office here in our place with the help of our medical secretary. Hopefully, everything will be fine.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Hi janfrn, they did consider the document that I sent myself. Actually, I received a reply from them for me to be referred to KPU in Langley, BC. Maybe rules are rules but sometimes it can be adjusted, say, to give consideration if the reason is valid and I informed them ahead of time about the reason why the document did not directly come from SCFHS; however, I still encourage everyone to adhere to the procedure. I do not brag about it, it is just that I want to share this one to prove that as long as your documents are authentic, coupled by honesty and justifiable reason, they can be very considerate.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Hello naverth, as in your case, they considered mine. I am now for SEC Assessment in BC for they no longer conduct it in AB. However, since it would be a quite long process before I can be registered in AB, I am also working on my full application in the UK because fortunately, I was hired to work for the Northwest London Hospitals NHS Trust. Wish me luck as well.

Hi , Edong!

I came to this forum to know about the experiences of those nurses in Saudi Arabia who are currently applying in other registration bodies in the UK or Canada. I have an ongoing NMC application since January this year. I accomplished all the requirements for pack 1, but they asked for a replacement document for my Saudi Council certificate. I sent them a plain photocopy of my Saudi Council ID the first time, but they asked me to send an authenticated photocopy instead. I went to the provincial branch of Saudi Council in Gassim where I am working to stamp my document as authenticated photocopy. I sent it back to NMC as instructed last June 8, 2014. I am currently waiting for my 2nd pack now. I hope it will finally go well. You have mentioned about Northwest London Hospitals NHS Trust in your post. Are you with ASC Global too? Are you done with your panel interview with the employers? How was your interview experience? Was it done via skype? I was lined up for the April 2014 batch of applicants for Skype interview, but it was cancelled. They haven't set another skype interview yet.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Hello stylish_gem. I hope they would accept the authenticated copy of your Saudi License since they advised you to just have it authenticated. As from my end, I did send them a translated copy (also a certified true copy) of my Professional Accreditation Certificate and I did not have any problem with it. Actually, they sent me the full application or second pack after a month.

Meanwhile, it was Greenfields who lined me up for an interview with Search Recruitment when they came to Manila. Since I wasn't able to attend it personally, we did it via Skype. They were suppose to be two but only one got to sit for it and it went fine, as the interviewer was warm and friendly. Anyways, try to ask your agent back there in the Phils for any update. They might as well line you up for the next employer's interview. Good luck!

Hi there!

Edong, you are lucky to have been interviewed by Search Recruitment via skype. I was lined up once for a skype interview by Greenfields with Search Recruitment last April 5 for Northwest London Hospitals NHS Trust, but it was cancelled. There was no advise yet from Greenfields as to when will be the next one, so I directly kept in touch with Search Recruitment via email the 2nd of June, and they told me that there is no skype interview schedule yet. Did Greenfields tell you not to resign yet until you get your decision letter?

I am with several agencies, so I got confused with the hospitals in my previous post. Let me just get the facts straight. Northwest London Hospital is with Greenfields International while Kings College Hospital is with ASC Global. Can you give me helpful tips regarding your interview with Northwest London Hospitals? Were they after technical aspects or nursing care plans perhaps? Did you apply under medical and surgical nurse or general nurse category in Greenfields?

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Good morning! I'm still kinda sleepy but I think you really need some help here to lessen your worries. It's the same anxiety level that I had when I was at that stage, I guess.

At first, I thought I won't get interviewed because they told me the same things - it is to wait for the next batch. However, they emailed me to ask for my Skype ID and my availability. So I waited patiently and decided to do it on their last day in Manila. The thing that surprised me is that they asked for the interview at 0730H on that very day, a bit far from what we finalized a week before that, which should have been 1100H. I'm letting you know this so that you know what to expect in case you'll do a Skype interview with them. They asked about fall, medication administration and about my nursing experience with some follow up questions, which I can no longer recall. By the way, Greenfields will get in touch with you for some helpful tips prior to the interview. They advised me actually to not ask if I made it through the interview but it was the interviewer who revealed it right away. On the last part, I was also asked to choose my area of assignment and I picked the medicine ward instead of endoscopy and surgery for the reason that it is somehow closer to the ICU/ITU in terms of routines.

You are right, the recruitment for NWLHs NHS Trust is led by Greenfields and Search whereas for King's College it is ASC and Drake. Yah, the advice not to resign although already hired is from Greenfields and I think they are right.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

So you are also from Gassim, nice to know another "kabayan" who is processing her NMC application. I am working for the MOI by the way. Your situation is pretty hard for you are a female because we males can go anywhere from here as long as we are on off. Anyway, the verification may be accomplished on your behalf by another person. The SCFHS has to fill out, sign, stamp and send directly to NMC UK. It would be better to go there personally to ensure the accuracy of the details but if you have someone to process it is also fine, given your situation.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

To make it easier for us, I'll just answer your questions from the other forum on this thread if you don't mind stylish_gem.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

About the translation, I went to a registered translator here in Buraydah. It is along Al Khobaib street, our version of Riyadh's Batha here.

Regarding your concern for the expiration of your IELTS test result, I think the NMC would consider it as long as it is still valid. Agencies may require at least a year. Since you already commenced with your application, you do not have to worry because the timeline for you to have a decision letter is up to 90 days unless additional papers shall be needed. Lately, the NMC gives an initial waiting time of 6-8 weeks for international application to be processed, which is longer compared to what they told me last April to follow up in 3-4 weeks. Yesterday, the agent told me that they have lots of applications to process lately. Still, another 2 weeks of patience for me or even 2 months if I'll be fortunate to not have any problems along the way.

Thanks a lot for taking time to answer my queries. I really appreciate your input about these matters which are causing me worries. I called Greenfields International today to ask their advice on applicants who are currently employed overseas. They don't advise me to hand in my resignation yet until I get my certificate of sponsorship from the UK employer. I told them that if ever I recontract with my present employer until December 2015, I might need to take the IELTS again because it will expire a month after that which will be on January 2016. They advised me that I need to take IELTS again if that would be the case since the employers would prefer an applicant with a valid IELTS at least for 1 year. However, there's no need for me to worry about the NMC decision letter because it will be valid for 2 years. It would only mean that I need to study for my IELTS exams again if ever I renew my contract which is one of my possibilities at present. I am still undecided as to what will best suit my situation. I just really pray to God that my decision letter will finally be out before I leave this place in case I formally hand in my resignation notice.

By the way, our hospital has a shopping schedule in Buraydah this Saturday (June 21), and we will go to Al-Kobaib too. Can you tell me the office location of the person who translated your Saudi Council document? In case I ask my friend my Riyadh to represent me in SCFHS for the verification of registration, do I still need to give her a special power of attorney or a simple authorization letter would do?

EdOng specializes in ICU.

You're welcome :) Same as what they told me. The decision is taking ages but it certainly won't cost you a couple of years of waiting, though.

Regarding your other query, the office of the translator is near Makati Express, so just go straight pass it if you are coming from the stores such as Kabayan Store, which I bet you know about. It is in the same area/block, right side of the main road.

About your SCFHS, I think an authorization letter will do. Just to make sure, try to reach their customer service center on a weekday during office hours. Their contact number is available on their website.

Edong, I called the SCFHS call center today, and they told me that there is no need for an authorization letter even if my friend will get it on my behalf. However, I think it would be best to still send her a letter of authorization together with the verification form from NMC just in case they will ask for it. Thanks again for your help!

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Do not forget to send a copy of your Saudi License along with the form to your friend because they did ask me of that too. Also, you might as well consider Rabinski's advice about the translation service offered by the SCFHS. Good luck to you then.

Hi! Sorry to ask again but what is the process that you followed for Nmc registration verification? What about me who's here in the Philippines es na and won't be going back to Ksa? Which form did you have translated for saudi council? We're they the one who filled up your pack2 form or you? Did they send it to nmc or you did? Or they just gave you a certificate of good standing and you were the one who sent it to nmc? Thanks so much for your help.

EdOng specializes in ICU.

Hello ReenaDangoy. With regards to the registration verification, I forwarded the form to the SCFHS personally and had it filled out, signed, stamped and sent the document (verification form) back to the NMC UK's address. The good standing certificate is another thing, but I lodged it together with my full application pack as a supporting document. Again, the verification form must come directly from the Saudi Council. Since you are in the Phils now, I think you would want to ask a friend of yours in Riyadh to do you a favour.

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They were the one who sent it? Nareceive na ng Nmc? Coz i heard they aren't processing these kinds of verification that's why they have the electronic certificates na for good standing. And there's no way to track your document if you will leave it with them. I'm afraid it will just get lost. Thanks so much for your help but I'm really worried because I'm leaving, hopefully in a few weeks, and I haven't received my pack2 yet. So, it's really nerve wrecking to process these things.

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