Registered PN in Canada

micdelrosario · Apr 2, 2008

i'm currently a PN student and I got really shocked when I read what suzanne posted about LPN programs here in Phils. I am taking up PN and I am planning to take the CPNRE as soon as I become eligible to do so. As i search the website of College of Nurses in Ontario, I found out that they are accepting internationally educated nurses both in RN and RPN programs. I have already contacted them and I actually have my Assessment Package with me already. In the website, they also admitted that they have shortage of nurses. you can check their website www.cno.org. But as i read the thread LPN programs here in Phils, I am now in the state of confusion. Does that mean I cannot use this LPN program too to go to canada? please help me. thanks.

did it say on the website that they petition filipino citizens that are intl educated? if it was a canadian citizen or an immigrant that is intl educated that they are accepting, then i guess its possible that theyll hire you. then i guess for you to be eligible for an exam, you need to be a immigrant 1st?

suzanne4, RN · Apr 3, 2008

Licensure and immigration are two very different items and are not the same. Being able to get a license someplace does not give you permission to work there, you need to go thru immigration for that.

If you do not have landed immigration status already, then they will not grant a visa based on the LPN status, that is the point that we are trying to make. And the other issue is that Canada requires the local license, and since there is no local license issued in your country, then you are going to have issues meeting that requirement.

Getting the PN training in the Philippines only helps the pocketbook of the owners of the schools and no one else.

Notice that it states internationally educated, but it does not say anything about a visa. And that is where you big issue lies.

prettymelai18 · Apr 9, 2008

did it say on the website that they petition filipino citizens that are intl educated? if it was a canadian citizen or an immigrant that is intl educated that they are accepting, then i guess its possible that theyll hire you. then i guess for you to be eligible for an exam, you need to be a immigrant 1st?

well, i don't really think that they petition filipino citizens. but i'm hoping to get a working visa if ever i pass the CPNRE, not an immigrant status there. i don't know if i need to be an immigrant first. but if that's the case, why did they send me an Assessment Package knowing that I am a filipino citizen and lives here in the Phils? I'm so confused.

prettymelai18 · Apr 9, 2008

Licensure and immigration are two very different items and are not the same. Being able to get a license someplace does not give you permission to work there, you need to go thru immigration for that.
If you do not have landed immigration status already, then they will not grant a visa based on the LPN status, that is the point that we are trying to make. And the other issue is that Canada requires the local license, and since there is no local license issued in your country, then you are going to have issues meeting that requirement.
Getting the PN training in the Philippines only helps the pocketbook of the owners of the schools and no one else.
Notice that it states internationally educated, but it does not say anything about a visa. And that is where you big issue lies.

i honestly don't think that they'd grant me an immigrant visa based on the LPN status, but i am hoping to get a working visa thru that. is it possible to that i can get a working visa if i passed the CPNRE?

suzanne4, RN · Apr 9, 2008

No, it is not. They do not issue visas of any type for the LPN license, that is what we are trying to tell you. There are many more LPNS and there is not a need to import them anywhere.

Unless, you already have a landed immigrant visa for Canada, which is like the green card in the US, there is not one thing that you can do with that wonderful training that your government provides as it is not accepted in any other country for immigration.

Does not matter what your politicians tell you or the owners of the schools, but the fact is that is that you cannot do a thing with it legally.

And if you care to take a chance of doing something illegal, please be aware that the US government is busy deporting LPNs that came here with fraudulent visas, and that is what you would be doing and not permitted to enter the US for ten years. Same thing for other countries as well.

suzanne4, RN · Apr 9, 2008

And if you care to read the requirements for the LPN in Ontario, you will see that they require an actual full two year program for that, the one year that you are doing is not even accepted for licensure there.

And the LPN is not considered a professional nurse degree in the eyes of any nursing board, it is considered a technical degree and is not accepted for immigration or any type of visa.

And you cannot get a license to practice in Ontario as your training does not meet their requirements.

Sure, we have a shortage of RNs, but not LPNs either in the US.

prettymelai18 · Apr 10, 2008

And if you care to read the requirements for the LPN in Ontario, you will see that they require an actual full two year program for that, the one year that you are doing is not even accepted for licensure there.
And the LPN is not considered a professional nurse degree in the eyes of any nursing board, it is considered a technical degree and is not accepted for immigration or any type of visa.
And you cannot get a license to practice in Ontario as your training does not meet their requirements.
Sure, we have a shortage of RNs, but not LPNs either in the US.

Gosh. Thanks for the info suzanne.:wink2: But if that's the case, then they should not put information about international educated nurses in their websites and not send their Assessment Packages to interested people all over the country because it just gives people false hope. i'm so frustrated. Thanks again suzanne for all the help.:wink2:

suzanne4, RN · Apr 11, 2008

Sorry, but just because someone is internationally trained, there are Canadians that attend school in other countries. And it is a very well known fact that you need the two year LPN training for Ontario. You still see things about the US, but again, there are no visas issued for one with the LPN.

If you had a landed immigrant visa in hand because of being a spouss or dependent, or something similar, then there is the possibility of getting to work in Canada as an LPN, but not in Ontario.

What you are not understanding is that licensure and immigration are two very different and separate issues. Same thing for the US as well. No visa to work legally in the US is offered for anyone that trains as an LPN anywhere in the world. If they already have a green card or a US passport, then they can work. But without it, not one thing can be done.

This is something that should have been researched thoroughly by you before you started your program. Then you would have known that Ontario requires the two year program right from the beginning.

That is not a fault of anyone, but not doing enough reading can hurt you, and you just proved it.

micdelrosario · Apr 11, 2008

well, i don't really think that they petition filipino citizens. but i'm hoping to get a working visa if ever i pass the CPNRE, not an immigrant status there. i don't know if i need to be an immigrant first. but if that's the case, why did they send me an Assessment Package knowing that I am a filipino citizen and lives here in the Phils? I'm so confused.

here's an article I would lik to share.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view/20080408-129004/Wanted-practical-nurses

gemini_star, BSN, RN · Apr 11, 2008

Gosh. Thanks for the info suzanne.:wink2: But if that's the case, then they should not put information about international educated nurses in their websites and not send their Assessment Packages to interested people all over the country because it just gives people false hope. i'm so frustrated. Thanks again suzanne for all the help.:wink2:

Please do share this information in this website to your classmates. They should be enlightened about this and not fooled by the LPN programs in the Philippines. Spread the word!

suzanne4, RN · Apr 11, 2008

It actually has become a joke in many areas around the world. Your country offers the training, but will not even recognise them for licensure there, but expect other countries to do so. And there is no other country that is accepting those with that training and issuing a visa based on that.

That is just pure garbage to say the least, and it shows what I have been saying all along, they do not care about anyone, just the money that is going to their pockets.