What's the point of getting a BSN? - page 4
Hi, the only reason I'm asking is because by mid next year, I will have completed a BA in another subject. I have recently gained an interest in nursing but I didn't want to abandon my BA that I've... Read More
Aug 30, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: Med/Surg, Progressive Tele ; Joined: Dec '04; Posts: 253; Likes: 104Finish your BA, there are more and more bridge programs out there for people just like you who have a degree in another field then nursing, who now want to get into nursing. Some schools have a bridge program that if you are accepted can do from BA (your current degree) to MSN (Masters in Nursing and get your RN) in 3 yrs. There are other programs out there that will take your BA and help you get a BSN. More and more hospitals are hiring only BSN nurses. There are people on this board that will argue this point until thier face is red. I know at our hospital we want Magnet Status, and to do that, you have to have a ratio of BSN nurses vs ADN/dipolma nurses vs LPNs. There is a big push at our hospital to get the ADN nurses to finish thier BSNs, the hospital is willing to pay 100% of the schooling (then a 3 yr committed) so the ADN RN gets thier BSN.
Quote from nikkir386Hi, the only reason I'm asking is because by mid next year, I will have completed a BA in another subject. I have recently gained an interest in nursing but I didn't want to abandon my BA that I've already put so much time and effort into. I was looking into some ASN programs, primarily for the fact that they tend to be a little cheaper. I considered a BSN program, but now I wonder why I should bother? After researching, I see that I can go from an ASN(With a BA) to an MSN(If I wanted to...). So can someone tell me why/if I should go for the BSN instead of the ASN? Oh and not that the money is sole deciding factor for my decision, I'm still curious: Even though I would already have a BA, do you think I'd still make less than someone with a BSN? IMO I don't see much difference in someone having a BSN and someone like myself who would have an ASN+BA...
Aug 31, '09Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '05; Posts: 3,639; Likes: 2,375Quote from lilmama007And this statement bothers me.No one can be PREPARED for leadership. Either you have it or you don't. Not all BSN's can lead. Sorry , it just doesn't work that way. i'm speaking from experience as a US Marine Corps veteran. Saw War 3 times and lead so well that not one of my Marines died. (Also I am female)
Speaking as a military veteran and the child and sister of three others (with a father who flew Medevac in Korea and Vietnam) your ability to lead had nothing to do with not losing any Marines. There are thousands of brilliant military leaders who lost men AND women - my decorated father being one of them - as were Eisenhower, Schwartzkopf, Powell, Arnold, Puller, Patton, Washington, Grant, Lee, Nelson, Wellington, Wayne, Greene...and guess what? They were still exemplary leaders.
For what it's worth, and because I feel possessed to play cop, the past tense, 'led', is appropriate. (And yes, I realize how pedantic and b*tchy that makes me.) But to imply that someone lost no troops because they were fantastic leaders borders on arrogance and could simply be downright erroneous: what if one lost no troops because they DIDN'T do what was supposed to be done and simply hindered the execution of the mission at hand? Eisenhower lost THOUSANDS of men during WWII, but who could possibly argue his skill in leadership?
Flame me at will, I can take it.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
Sep 1, '09Occupation: CRNA Specialty: 1 year(s) of experience in Medical ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '09; Posts: 64; Likes: 19When I graduated from the BSN program 2 hospitals I applied for in the midwest paid $2 more if you had a BSN. One hospital only hired BSN's. Overall, nurses that have a bachelors degree should be better prepared to care for any type of patient in any setting. However, I have met some nurses that have a bachelor's degree and wonder how they graduated.
Sep 12, '09Joined: May '08; Posts: 367; Likes: 134Quote from lilmama007could you be more arrogant and full of yourself? that was a flat out horrible thing to say and quite frankly an insult to all us officers/leaders that have lost troops. you're making a compliment on yourself at the expense of all the troops that have lost their lives. please do not make another statement like that again. you should be quite ashamed of yourself for that.No one can be PREPARED for leadership. Either you have it or you don't. Not all BSN's can lead. Sorry , it just doesn't work that way. i'm speaking from experience as a US Marine Corps veteran. Saw War 3 times and lead so well that not one of my Marines died. (Also I am female)
yes, one can be prepared to lead others.Last edit by JStyles1 on Sep 12, '09