Referred to IPN. Newbie. Help

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Jan 22, 2020

Well, for starters I can say to stay the **** away from Tampa. Unless they have started using other places besides the one that bamboozled me out of more than $30k of hard cash, it’s nothing more than an overpriced carpool to 12 step meetings and where you’re living with 3 other strangers in moldy 2 bedroom 1 bath apartments that ought to be condemned.
As far as wondering if money exchanges hands between these evaluators and so-called treatment programs? Directly, not provable, but when you consider that those evaluators stand to make bank off of what they ‘opine’ in those evaluations, there’s an impetus to say all sorts of stuff that justifies condemning a person to expensive treatment that of course their facility is the only one to offer and they conveniently have an open bed available......

Also it seems (again just observing but....) the more these people ‘recomandate’ treatment and contracts, the more poor souls IPN will send them, because it justifies their twisted existence. I’ve also observed that even if the evaluator maybe has some scruples and writes a truthful report, those clowns aren’t going to listen to It anyway. They’ll force a person into a contract merely to prove that they don’t have a problem. (Didn’t think it was possible to prove a negative??) ?.

Does all of this center around the almighty dollar and what help you may (or may not) need come in a distant second. Yep. Sure does. IPN is registered as a for-profit company as are these treatment centers that they favor.

Its a very sad affair. They do way more damage than good and nobody cares. And this junk about “you have 24 hours to comply.” Please, the worst criminals are not threatened like that. It does not give you time to make an informed decision and weigh your options. There’s no time to do adequate research and that scares people into bending over and opening their wallet. Oh, wait, that’s exactly the point. They prey on people’s fears. Nice, huh?

My personal advice is to lawyer up. It’s worth the expense. Those dirtbags are more responsive to so-and-so, Esq. than any of us great unwashed. The attorney might not be able to get you out of a contract but can defend you against being taken to the cleaners with garbage, unnecessary treatment and being trapped in an unnecessary contract that boils down to (quoting goodfellas) **** you, pay me.

sofloRN · Jan 22, 2020

do you have any lawyer recommendations? do you think they will give me 30 60 or 90 days treatment? ive no savings! do they have payment plans? treatment plans do not allow phones or laptop correct?

sofloRN · Jan 22, 2020

is there anyway we could exchange emails? [email protected]

RN1970 · Jan 29, 2020

I went to facility in Tampa as I was required by IPN to attend a program for healthcare professionals. I was among doctors, nurse, pharmacists, etc. If I had to be inpatient, this program was tolerable. Most of the staff was in recovery.

Elisant · Mar 17, 2020

I’m in very similar boat. Any info found out? Any advice an evaluators Or treatment facilities? I live near Tampa. I don’t trust any of them!! Who is the least shady?

Also how long is inpatient treatment typically? How do people afford this? Did I basically just ruin any chance of having my career back?

RN1970 · Mar 17, 2020

I have heard some horror stories about Titelbaum in Gainesville. I went to HCC back in 2017. At least then, it was not bad. Almost everyone is given inpatient now, typically 60 days. Some also get outpatient afterwards. For me, once I was finished my 60 days, I got my contract and could begin looking for a job.

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Mar 17, 2020

In my experience with Gainesville (TOC says we really ought not be naming specific doctors, etc) the one I saw there is a lying sack of excrement. The things he wrote in my evaluation report were laughably false. I had to wonder if he got me mixed up with someone else. Supposedly I ‘admitted to drinking and driving but never having gotten a dui and having smoked pot in high school.’ Very interesting since for one, I can count on one hand the times I’ve ever drank more than socially and I’m so introverted, there’s no way I’d even be comfortable enough in public to drink. And pot? Hah! I’m in my late 40s and still can’t identify the smell other than I think its possibly stinky maybe? I also have a hard enough time not choking on my own spit. I’m definitely not coordinated enough to smoke.

I got bamboozled into a stint at that horrible place in Tampa in 2014. It was a hideous mind****. I didn’t belong there. I needed behavioral health help, not drug rehab. They sniffed out the fact that my family had money and were willing to do whatever was needed for me. I was ‘recommandated’ for the full on deluxe package of 90 days inpatient, 90 days outpatient, which was a repeat of the same garbage from the first round. Inpatient was nothing but an overpriced daily carpool to 12 step meetings. The only way I finally got out of there was to to start lying and telling them what they wanted to hear. Be honest, my orifice.

That mess and IPN stole nearly 6 years of my life and nearly ruined my career as well as did irreparable damage to my family relationships and I will never forgive that. I will move on and leave them behind but I will never stop warning others of what crooks those people are and how your recovery means nothing to them. They are interested in nothing more than the contents of your bank account.

If you get sober/clean somewhere in this process, if SUD is your issue, it will be in spite of these people, not because of them. There was undoubtably a time when this program was a good thing but no longer. It is now nothing more than a massive money generator for a few unscrupulous individuals whose victims are ill members of their own profession and that is sick and sad.