"You don't get to tell me what to do!"

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So I am a new nurse (still on orientation). On my floor we have 2 aides to a 24 bed ICU. The unit is divided by a small hallway, with 12 beds on each side. One aide is assigned to 12 beds. Anyway, I needed help moving my patient up in bed so I set out to look for someone to help me. I look outside my room and the only people I could see was an aide talking with a nurse (who was about to go home because she had a migraine) and the secretary who was working at the computer.

So, I asked the aide if he was busy and if he could help me pull my patient up in bed. He said " ask your CNA." I said are you not a CNA? He told me he was working on the other side. I said oh, sorry. The unit secretary told me the other CNA was helping a confused patient in another room, so I asked the guy to please help me since the other aide was busy. He said no. At this point I'm getting realy angry cause I was polite in my approach and this guy is just standing infront of my room refusing to do a job he was hired for. So, I told him " it does not matter what side you are assigned to, you can still help". He went on to tell me " you don't get to tell me what to do" and I said I'm not telling you what to do, you are an employee of the unit (did not make much sense but that's what came out at that time). The other aide is busy. If you don't want to help me just say it!"

He comes closer to me and says "don't speak to me like that" and "you don't tell me what to do." Now we are both speaking louder than we should have. I tell him I was not speaking to him in any way, and that I was just asking for assistance. At this point the other aide came up to help so I just left him standing there and went into my patient's room. I reported this incidence to the charge nurse, who sounded as if she could not believe this happened. she said "I will have a talk with him" but I doubt that she did.

Right now I feel as though I should have gone to the manager, but I figured I had to follow the chain of command. I'm so angry this happened. I have not been there long so I feel a little self-conscious and I don't want to set a bad name for myself (trouble maker). Oh, did I mention that the nurse that was talking to the aide, was laughing the whole time??!!

So I am a new nurse (still on orientation). On my floor we have 2 aides to a 24 bed ICU. The unit is divided by a small hallway, with 12 beds on each side. One aide is assigned to 12 beds. Anyway, I needed help moving my patient up in bed so I set out to look for someone to help me. I look outside my room and the only people I could see was an aide talking with a nurse (who was about to go home because she had a migraine) and the secretary who was working at the computer.

So, I asked the aide if he was busy and if he could help me pull my patient up in bed. He said " ask your CNA." I said are you not a CNA? He told me he was working on the other side. I said oh, sorry. The unit secretary told me the other CNA was helping a confused patient in another room, so I asked the guy to please help me since the other aide was busy. He said no. At this point I'm getting realy angry cause I was polite in my approach and this guy is just standing infront of my room refusing to do a job he was hired for. So, I told him " it does not matter what side you are assigned to, you can still help". He went on to tell me " you don't get to tell me what to do" and I said I'm not telling you what to do, you are an employee of the unit (did not make much sense but that's what came out at that time). The other aide is busy. If you don't want to help me just say it!"

He comes closer to me and says "don't speak to me like that" and "you don't tell me what to do." Now we are both speaking louder than we should have. I tell him I was not speaking to him in any way, and that I was just asking for assistance. At this point the other aide came up to help so I just left him standing there and went into my patient's room. I reported this incidence to the charge nurse, who sounded as if she could not believe this happened. she said "I will have a talk with him" but I doubt that she did.

Right now I feel as though I should have gone to the manager, but I figured I had to follow the chain of command. I'm so angry this happened. I have not been there long so I feel a little self-conscious and I don't want to set a bad name for myself (trouble maker). Oh, did I mention that the nurse that was talking to the aide, was laughing the whole time??!!

Technically, you didn't tell him what to do, you ASKED him.

I agree with others, him coming closer to you was meant to intimidate you. He probably thought since you were new that he could do this.

If your manager does nothing, go over her head. We should work as a team. And besides, pulling up a pt is a 3 minute deal. As an aide, I have my patients that I'm responsible for but if a nurse asks me for help with one of hers when her aide is busy I have no problems helping. I think it's ridiculous to refuse to help someone and then go sit on your *** while the pt suffers. When you go to work, guess what?? You're supposed to work!

I hope things go better for you. Sometimes, and this has happened to me, you have to just lay down the law and people will respect you more. I had one nurse who treated me like crap and when I told her privately that I neither wanted nor needed her as a friend, but that I expected the same respect she gave others she completely changed. Some people you just got to stand up to.

Wow, I wonder where he gets the nerve?!!! Dont think I would have said too much to him after his first few responses. I would have went ahead did what I had to do and reported him!! He sounds extremely immature and he is definitely NOT a teamplayer. I would then continue to ask him for help anyway from time to time out of general principle. I hope you will. What a nerve.....

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