Published Jun 14, 2002
You are reading page 3 of "Bad" Evaluation..I'm So Frustrated and ready to quit!!
It's disheartening to hear yet, another story, of nurses "eating their own." Stick to your principles and hold your head up -- you know you are doing your best. Clearly, it's frustrating that you are being floated out of the ICU -- you need the experience and time on the unit. As for the AHN stating that you need to earn their trust -- the nurses have not shown themselves to be trustworthy. But try to get beyond this. It's difficult -- you're trying to be a team player -- and, at this point, they are not letting you "play." Only you can decide if it's worth it.
Kelly, as a long term critical care nurse (and a long term night nurse too!), I am sorry that you had this experience. My suggestion is to go straight to that nurse and tell her that you are aware that she wrote you up negatively and you want to know what will change her opinion of you! People who run to the AHN or HN to report someone instead of talking with that person first are afraid of confrontation and usually do a fantastic job of stammering and back pedaling when confronted like that. Maybe I'm sadistic, but it is fun to watch them squirm when I've done this in the past. Then drive her crazy with questions from now on in! Tell her how you would do a procedure, then ask if that's what she'd do; pretty soon she will wish you'd shut up! (And it isn't sucking up, either).
On a side note here, I have found that it is difficult to evaluate a quiet newbie in ICU. As either a preceptor or "buddy," I find I am continually questioning them about different procedures, meds, etc. until I find they have a good grasp of what they are doing. I try to explain to them that unless they tell me what they are doing (and why), I will be "hounding" them about everything they do. Once they understand that I NEED to know how they are thinking, they usually start talking more and ask questions more and explain what they plan to do and why. Back in the "old days" of nursing (when I was young) we had a saying of "See One, Do One, Teach One" and that was how we learned different procedures: you had to know what you were doing before you could teach someone a new procedure. I don't know if that is still done elsewhere today, but the newer (younger) people that I've spoken to haven't heard of it.
I think that many of the "witches" in ICUs are overly possessive and protective of THEIR patients and feel that there is no one who can care for their patients as well as they can, and they will jump down anothers' throat for even the slightest transgression (at least that is a problem with the 3 in my unit). I wonder if they realise what they are doing sometimes.
Mario, I'm sorry you got written up 3 times by 3 nurses in the same unit. What did you do, talk all 12 hours to the patient you were sitting? Just kidding, but that is about the only thing I could possibly see you doing.
Kelly, many here have told you to "hang-in-there" so-to-speak, however, if I were in the position you are in, I'd quit! Sorry to be so blunt and perhaps adverse but if more people would "quit" when confronted with these situations, management might start to pay attention to the real reason for the shortages.
LaurieCRNP2002, MSN, RN, APRN
I don't know where you live but if there is a local chapter of AACN (Amer Association of Critical Care Nurses), you should look into joining! When I got a job in an ICU [which I ended up leaving after 3 months --long story ] one of the first things I did was join my local chapter. I am fortunate b/c I have met many wonderful people through my involvement with AACN and even have gone to NTI (the national conference) the last 2 years. Hopefully you can meet some RN's who are supportive and willing to be a mentor to you. Good luck and feel free to email me privately if you want to know more about my chapter, etc.
I wish I could say something helpful, Kelly, but what I can say is I do know how you feel as I was stuck in a small ICU with 2 witches once and it wasn't fun.... They were both burnt out, and i did eventually get to a 'tolerant place' with them once i understood all their numerous problems. Believe it or not, one of them quit and the remaining one immediately began to complain about how negative the other was...LOL! She soon left too. !
Any chance you can ask to go back to days where there aren't personality conflicts? Sometimes a different shift makes all the difference....you do need to stand up to them, though, sounds like they are bullies.
Some nurses just are NOT good preceptors and I wish to God theey would just ADMIT it and stop harassing our youngun's!!!
Best wishes..I know this isn't easy. (((HUGS))) Find some good folks to stick to...and if there aren't any...well maybe it is best to move on to a more positive place...
I HAVE HAD THE SAME TYPE OF PROBEM--AND ONCE EVEN THE OPPOSITE!!!
AS A BRAND-NEW GRAD I GOT ABOUT 3-4 WEEKS ORIENTATION AND WAS TURNED OUT TO THE WOLVES!!! AT MY 6 MOMTH ORIENTATION, I WAS TOLD THAT I ASK"TOOMANY" QUESTIONS!!!
CAN YOU BELEIVE THAT ONE!!!!????
I WAS TALKING ONE NIGHT WITH A 25 YEAR NURSING VETERAN, TELLING HER THE STORY AND I THOUGHT SHE WOULD FALL OUT OF HER CHAIR!!
TAKE IT WASY AND KEEP YOUR CHIN UP!!!!
SOON, THEY WILL REALIZE WHAT A TRUE ASSET YOU ARE!!!!!
i'm going into nursing as a second career. i worked in schools for many years teachers act the same way nasty! if you have a unique personality or any thing they can pick on they will. I see the same thing go on everywhere in jobs. try to blend into the woodwork and not be noticed they probably are worried you'll do a better job than them and have a more interesting personality. and so they stuck it to ya to destroy your enthusiam for your future
Kelly, if ICU is where you want to be hang in there. In a similar situation I allowed the nurses involved to intimidate me into leaving ICU and returning to the ward I had been on before. Unfortunately I didn't realize how much support I had there from the majority of nurse until after I'd gone. About 3 months after I had left one of my patients on the ward coded. The ICU nurse who came to the code took me aside after and told me I had done well and why didn't I come back to ICU. Even 6 years later ICU nurses I worked with back then still tell me I should come back!
I think what often happens is that the "difficult to work with" nurses end up all together as most others try to move to other shifts. This also means new staff often end up working with this "select" group.
Hang in there and good luck.
Eleanor Roosevelt once said that "no one can intimidate you without your permission." It is so important NOT to give anyone permission to intimidate you! Please remember that when working with people who try to do that to you.
Originally posted by Jenny P Eleanor Roosevelt once said that "no one can intimidate you without your permission." It is so important NOT to give anyone permission to intimidate you!
Eleanor Roosevelt once said that "no one can intimidate you without your permission." It is so important NOT to give anyone permission to intimidate you!
but, nurses can sneakily try to make trouble for you by giving you an "off" evaluation, or by writing you up. That can only intimidate anyone.
i once dreamed up some kinda of mafia association that would specialize in taking care of these scenarios for the benifit of everyones mental health. Who can help both the attacking nurse and the victum nurses when this stuff goes on in semi-secrecy?
Like, some kind of "monitor" that is familiar with these work environments and mechanics, who could serve as a liason between new nurses under attack and their base. i guess I've said enough now. Thank you all for letting me chime in here:sniff:
Hey Mario, can you arrange some Mafia association to take care of the cannibal nurses? That would be cool!
Kelly, I know exactly how you feel. Nothing's worse than to be the goldfish in the shark pond. And in 36 years of working, I've seen my share of sharks. If they can't get at you professionally, they get at you personally. I have a few suggestions.
Someone here has suggested connecting with your specialty's professional group. Let them take you under their wing. Network, network, network, girl.
Take some specialty courses, you can take them by distance education if there's nothing available in your neck of the woods. Show your certificates to your HN. Go to seminars, in-services.
I wouldn't suggest cooking for the sharks. To me, that would come across as apologizing for existing. The occasional doughnut does work wonders, however. But don't kiss-up.
I would approach the #1 bytch and say something like "I understand that you gave me a poor evaluation after working such a short time on your shift. I realize that I should not take this personally, that this was just my first evaluation for night shift, but I FEEL as if you believe that I will never become competent to work in this unit. I FEEL as if you believe that I should be an expert right away, rather than being allowed time to learn. I FEEL hurt and embarrassed, as if you want me to be a failure here. Did you really mean for me to FEEL this way, and if so, why?" Always talk about how you feel, as that is subjective and not something that she can deny. Also lets her get a good look (okay, maybe she won't look) on how she appears to you.
Lastly, and since I'm only 5'1 1/2", my best advice is to learn to spit in their eye, upward if you have to.
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