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juan de la cruz has 27 years experience as a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care.

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...another thing: once you accept this job offer, you won't start right away because you will go through privileging and credentialing. At that point, you will be asked to submit documents including a DEA certificate. Personally, I would wait until you have been accepted as an employee before applying for the DEA. However, as already been discussed, Furnishing License is another hurdle. Do you already have an application for that? Those are the things that make it difficult for new grad NP's to get started in their new job in California. The good thing is you have a pending job offer and hopefully this agency is willing to wait it out until you get things in place.

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tryingtohaveitall has 23 years experience and specializes in PICU.

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I waited to apply for my DEA until I had a job because my employer reimbursed me the $731. Not sure they'd have done that if I already possessed it.

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Thank you so much Juan de la Cruz your comments have been the most helpful advice I've seen. I'm a new grad bc-fnp and have been working for a non-profit community clinic for about 5 months now PT. now that we no longer need the supervising hrs, thought I'd hurry up and get my furnishing n DEA license. Good to know that I should apply for the DEA first. Do nonprofit community clinics count for the fee exemption?

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juan de la cruz has 27 years experience as a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care.

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Do nonprofit community clinics count for the fee exemption?

If the clinic is funded by the federal or state government it should. I recently renewed my DEA, the option to check fee exempt is still there with a space to provide the name, title, and contact number of an administrative person who will vouch for your fee exempt status.

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Hello. I am a new NP in California and I have to say that from what I've read, things are much different than where I currently live. I have a question about the DEA number. Is there a time period one has to wait before applying for a DEA or can the person (even if that person is a new graduate) apply for a DEA number when the furnishing number application is completed?

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juan de la cruz has 27 years experience as a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care.

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You must have a license to practice as an NP before applying for a DEA. The DEA application asks for your CA NP License Number. You don't need a Furnishing License to apply for a DEA (at least the application process does not ask for a Furnishing License Number). That is the reason why I'm recommending applying for both DEA and Furnishing License at the same time.

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Hi Juan,

I came across your post and it appears you are very knowledgeable about the NP DEA and furnishing app process in CA. I have a question that relates to your post on 1/9/13. I am a new NP, I have my furnishing license and I am going to be applying for my DEA license. Do I have to send a written request to the BON after obtaining my DEA number to request for Schedule II furnishing privileges? or Is it automatically implied once I have obtained my DEA number? I am not clear on how the process works. Please advise.

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juan de la cruz has 27 years experience as a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care.

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Hi Juan,

I came across your post and it appears you are very knowledgeable about the NP DEA and furnishing app process in CA. I have a question that relates to your post on 1/9/13. I am a new NP, I have my furnishing license and I am going to be applying for my DEA license. Do I have to send a written request to the BON after obtaining my DEA number to request for Schedule II furnishing privileges? or Is it automatically implied once I have obtained my DEA number? I am not clear on how the process works. Please advise.

You need to send a copy of (1) your DEA certificate and (2) a certificate of having completed an approved Controlled Substance Continuing Education Course along with (3) a written request for CSII authority to the BRN in Sacramento.

***Some schools include the Controlled Substance CEU as part of the Pharmacology Course, some do not. If yours didn't, your best bet is to purchase a course from the California Association of Nurse Practitioners. The link is found here. There are other Continuing Education companies that offer this course as well.

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Hi Juan,

Thank you for your prompt reply, I appreciate it. My school did included Controlled Substances CEU as part of the Pharm course which was marked off on the original furnishing license application to the BON.On the verification of license on the BON CA website it reads under my furnishing license number schedule II controlled substances. Once I receive my DEA certificate...Do I still need to send a copy of (1) your DEA certificate and (2) a certificate of having completed an approved Controlled Substance Continuing Education Course along with (3) a written request for CSII authority to the BRN in Sacramento as you mentioned in your reply in order to be able to prescribe CSII?

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juan de la cruz has 27 years experience as a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care.

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Hi Juan' date=' Thank you for your prompt reply, I appreciate it. My school did included Controlled Substances CEU as part of the Pharm course which was marked off on the original furnishing license application to the BON.On the verification of license on the BON CA website it reads under my furnishing license number schedule II controlled substances. Once I receive my DEA certificate...Do I still need to send a copy of (1) your DEA certificate and (2) a certificate of having completed an approved Controlled Substance Continuing Education Course along with (3) a written request for CSII authority to the BRN in Sacramento as you mentioned in your reply in order to be able to prescribe CSII?[/quote']

I noticed there is a new License Verification website with the BRN. On mine, it just says Controlled Substances II under the NPF license link. Is that what you're seeing on yours? If that's the case, the BRN must have granted you CS II furnishing privileges. If you didn't send a copy of your DEA to the BRN, I would still do it anyway so there's no question later. You could also call the BRN directly to make sure that you do have CS II privileges, it usually takes many attempts to reach a person by phone.

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Hi Juan,

Thanks for following up with my questions. Yes, mine says the same under the nor license link: Controlled Substances II. Thats a good idea, I will definitely send the BON a copy of my DEA cert once I receive it and follow-up with a phone call. I know they never answer the phone! Thanks for all your help!

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Juan:

I am an California NP and I already have a DEA furnishing number. I had read somewhere that you need to have 45 hours of Pharmacology in order to renew my furnishing license, and another 30 hours to renew my NP license. However, when I looked up the rules for the CA license renewal it seems like you only need 30hrs to renew your license just as would if you were an RN and I see NOTHING that tells me that you need 45 hours of PHARM, can you please clarify or show me where to find this information??

Thanks in advance

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