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I am trying to do my research before I decide how exactly I am going to pursue my RN. I am currently a Paramedic and work a 24 on 48 off schedule. I pretty much have decided on using Excelsior. I met with a represenative from The College Network and have considered going that route. I have also requested literature straight from Excelsior. Here are my questions.
If I enroll directly with Excelsior is there a contract involved?
Do I have to buy any course material from Excelsior or can I buy from another source, ebay for instance.
If I don't have to buy the course work from them what all do I have to pay for besides the application, enrollment, and yearly fees?
If anyone has gone this route please help me get started in the right direction. Thank you very much in advance.
Zach
Thanks for the heads up on Lisa Arend's CD's. I bought one and thought "this is it?" Would love to hear what others think.
I think when you buy someone's notes, you get what you pay for -- notes! I found some good information in her notes, but I wouldn't use them as a primary study source. And yes, I am incredibly ... um, "detail oriented" when it comes to spelling, grammar, etc., so it was a little difficult to get past that. Heh. Just my opinion/experience; your mileage may vary.
I highly recommend EC's practice exams, though. Those things are worth every penny (I think they're $65 now).
Is Excelsior the better route to go from LPN to RN?My GPA from LPN school is 2.5, and am finding a 3.0 is needed for for an LPN to RN university classroom program.
Depends on the student. EC is not for everyone -- it takes a great deal of motivation and the ability to teach yourself the material. An alternative to consider is to take some of the RN pre-reqs and general education classes to get your GPA up.
I am an RN and wanted my BSN so I ordered all the books from The College Network. Very expensive and then did not even use them. I decided to go through Western Governor's University which is very economical and accredited. Excelsior is its own program aside from TCN and costs more money on top of what you already spent. Be wary.
I didn't actually enroll with them until near graduation. Up to that point, I just paid for each test as i did it. Be aware, not all states accept their program...check with the state boards of your state before doing anything. Also, though they're accredited & other schools are SUPPOSED to accept the grades, most don't. After about a year of arguing, San Jose State finally at least gave me credit for some of the credits, if not the grades.
Their study guides are fairly good & you can get the books anywhere. Don't waste your money on any of the companies that sell you their study guides & books. Really pricy & they aren't all that helpful (friend did it that way).
I was an LVN for years & the program really worked for me. their pre-clinical test workshop was a terrific investment...their video wasn't.
Zach:
- Under no circumstances should you use College Network. They are a publishing company, and are unrelated
to Excelsior College. In addition, their study guides are not in-depth enough to adequately cover the material
on the exams.
In fact, so poorly written are the College Network guides, that I would NOT even recommend buying them
used from E-bay.
- Best bet would be to purchase Lisa Arends and Study Group 101 study guides from E-bay. They run about
$50 = $60 (for the entire set). Use these as your guides, and then make your own study notes as you read
the material. Can do search on Ebay for these notes.
- Subscribe to the following two Yahoo Discussion Groups: (free to join and participate)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freehelpexcelsiorstudents/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PassCPNE/
Download all the files you can from these two groups. Use these files to focus your readings. Yes!!!! You must
read the textbooks in order to get good grades on Excelsior exams.
- Go to http://www.flaschardexchange.com and view the card sets constructed by previous students. This is a great
way to study, and again it's free to use.
- Make sure you purchase the practice exams from Excelsior ($60 for each exam).
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- The Excelsior exams are fair, but thorough. I think you have seven years (from date of enrollment) to complete
the exams. Excelsior does have their own set of pre-requisites, so definitely submit your transcripts for review
so there are no suprises.
- I had to take Lifespan Development Psychology (did this through a Community College). In addition, they wanted
me to re-take Chemistry 101 as I had not taken it since 1981 (high school). Again, I did this course at a local
Community College and Excelsior accepted the credits with no problems.
- Counselors are easy to get a hold of.
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- The downside to Excelsior. You are basically on your own with regards towards studying and learning the material.
You are given the page numbers and a brief set of objectives for each exam. Then you are on your own.
When you are ready.
--> You pay for the practice exams (optional -- but definitely recommended).
--> You pay for the exam.
--> Wait two to four days for your "Authorization to Test" letter (snail mailed to you).
--> Register with PearsonVue for an actual exam date.
--> Go to exam site and take your exam. Grades are posted at end of exam. You also get paper receipt at end
of exam with your grade.
Clinicals are a 3 day process, called the CPNE.
--> Day 1 is compentencies (wet-to-dry, iv rate, IM injections, etc).
--> Day 2 and Day 3 are the actual patient cases.
You can read about CPNE experiences on the CPNE discussion group. Definitely recommend taking a
practice CPNE workshop. Again, can read about the workshops on the CPNE discussion group.
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- My personal story. I failed nursing school (clinicals) with two weeks left to go in an RN program. This, despite the
fact I had a 3.8 QPA. I was able to grab my LPN license as I had completed three out of four semesters (NY used
to let you do this).
- Am currently an LPN working agency (Rhode Island and New York). I work about 50 to 60 hours a week in various
nursing home facilities. Bacially, push a med cart for 8 to 16 hours and do charting, and try to stay out of trouble.
- I started Excelsior in Sept 2007. Did my Chemistry at SUNY, and my Lifespan Development (online via Ivy Tech
Community College, Evansville, Indiana). Have done the first four exams, and have two more to go. Basically, takes
me three months (due to work demands) to prepare for an exam.
I used the College Network guides (bought from Ebay), for first three exams and had B, B, C. I then switched gears,
and use Study Group 101 notes (only run about $10/exam for the notes ... cheap, but good). I use the Yahoo group
notes and read, read, read the textbooks. Had an A, and another A on the last two exams. Am just about ready
for my next exam (Oct 24th).
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- Overall assessment so far....
- I don't like online classes ... as I have to self-pace myself. Also, it's tough to know what's important to study and
what you can skip. Found this especially true with the online Lifespan Development course. The Yahoo groups
help to focus on what's important for the exams. However, if you work full-time and bounce around (I work in Rhode
Island, but live in New York), then certainly online school is a viable option.
- Has Excelsior been fair? So far, I think the exams have reflected my knowledge of the material. I was definitely not
prepared for the the mother-baby exam (which I earned a C in). I used the College Network study guide exclusively,
and found it to be incredibly lacking. Hence, my negative review of them.
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Sorry for the long rant. Just felt like typing away tonight. Was cancelled by agency for my night shift, so decided to
hack away.
Good luck,
John Coxey
(Syracuse, NY, USA)
I didn't actually enroll with them until near graduation. Up to that point, I just paid for each test as i did it. Be aware, not all states accept their program...check with the state boards of your state before doing anything. Also, though they're accredited & other schools are SUPPOSED to accept the grades, most don't. After about a year of arguing, San Jose State finally at least gave me credit for some of the credits, if not the grades.Their study guides are fairly good & you can get the books anywhere. Don't waste your money on any of the companies that sell you their study guides & books. Really pricy & they aren't all that helpful (friend did it that way).
I was an LVN for years & the program really worked for me. their pre-clinical test workshop was a terrific investment...their video wasn't.
I'm an LPN, and just started looking into getting my RN a different way than the local college; I just don't have the schedule for a traditional program right now. Would you mind explaining to me how you did it; re: not enrolling until near graduation? I'd love to do this as efficiently/affordable as possible. Any advice you have for me would be great!
Thanks in advance!
Rachelle
I just graduated from Excelsior College and passed my state boards and started my first job this week. Just a little advice. Do NOT enroll right now with EC. Take all your pre req. first through whoever, you mentioned the college network. Take all those you have to take and once you are done. Then you can contact EC and you can take Nursing concepts 1 &2 before you have to enroll. The reason I say this is because they charge you a yearly fee of $500.00 something . If you wait and enroll when you have to you will save alot of money. My study partner didn't know this and has had to pay that fee for about 8 years before she finished. I didn't do that, someone was kind enough to inform me of this information so I am passing it on.
Good luck, I have ran into alot of paramedics who have taken this route and are doing well.
DebbieM. RN
Things may have changed since I was there.
I did send my transcripts in for review & they recommended which classes for me to take. I got the study guide & information for one class at a time & when I was near to finished, i registered with them & prometric for the test. If you enroll, you have to pay extra fees every year, there are some benefits, but to me it wasn't enough to offset the cost. I had to enroll about 1 1/2 years before i was done because CA was no longer going to accept Excelsior & if you weren't already enrolled, you wouldn't be able to grandfather in. You do have to pay the enrollment fees prior to graduation...but you could get away with only paying them for the last year & not the whole time
You do have to pay the enrollment fees prior to graduation...but you could get away with only paying them for the last year & not the whole time
The way it's set up now is that you have to actually enroll before taking the third nursing exam. I used to hear about people not enrolling until the end -- not sure when they changed it, but they did.
suzi-Q
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Thanks for the heads up on Lisa Arend's CD's. I bought one and thought "this is it?" Would love to hear what others think.
I have just begun my EC adventure and am pleased so far. I would skip College Network so as not to pay a middle man and have an EC advisor available to you.