For New Grads -YES you can do psych.

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I wanted to post this for new grads who are perhaps in the same position that I was in about 6 months ago. I did nursing as a second degree, my first love was always mental health. I've always been very passionate about protecting the mentally ill. As I was nearing the end of nursing school, I couldn't stop thinking about how much I wanted to be a psych nurse... I could feel it in my BONES but it seemed like every time I had a thought about psych nursing as a new grad, I had another thought of "well... maybe I should do some med surg first. Just to be safe. Just in case." Because that's what everyone had told me to do.

Just to be safe from WHAT? I hated med surg during my clinical rotations. I learned a ton and I respected the process of healing on a med surg floor.... but I hated it. So why should I have done med surg nursing "just in case" when I knew I was never going to do med surg? But... that didn't stop those "just in case..." thoughts from invading my head as I was choosing my future.

I met with a nursing instructor/mentor before graduation to talk about my dilemma. To this day I am so grateful for her pushing me to do psych. She told me quite bluntly to just follow my gut. She told me that in her opinion, nurses on med-surg floors should get mental health nursing experience before walking onto a med-surg floor because mental illness hits everyone, everywhere. She gave me that "push" to do what I know I'm meant to be doing. She told me that psych is the future.... more and more people are carrying the weight of a mental illness.

I have been lucky to begin working as a new grad on a unit with an incredibly supportive team, a phenomenal nursing manager who coaches me and mentors me and supports me, and a very steady, consistent orientation in a hospital where therapeutic communication and milieu safety are of up top most importance. On my unit, I have only seen one restraint, and it was absolutely necessary at the time. It's been 3 months. My preceptors are supportive, my manager creates a safe working environment and validates my concerns, a lot of the time my coworkers are laughing and dancing to music hour or zumba group... I can't say enough good things about it. I lucked out.

HOWEVER, with that being said.... I wanted to tell all of you brand new nurses who are about to go out there interviewing TO LISTEN TO YOUR GUT. I was smart. My first interview was on a different unit in a different facility where the nurses looked burnt out, the unit looked run down, the furniture was torn up, the manager offered me the job 5 minutes into the interview..... and I went home from my interview with a bad, sinking feeling in my stomach. Nursing is a small world and I still hear stories about the nurses being miserable and treating each other poorly on that floor. I had a feeling not to accept a position there. I was lucky enough to receive an offer at the same time from the employer I work for now, but I just wanted to say.... if something feels off to you, if the facility seems a little shady, if the nurses look really tired and burnt out... chances are you may burn out quickly too. If your interview lasts an hour and a half and your future manager is asking you so many intense questions that your head is spinning... take it as a good sign. He/She knows what she's doing. If an offer is granted to you within 5 minutes... be wary.

I am so thankful that my nursing mentor pushed me to do psych nursing that I want to pay it forward and inspire those who may be thinking about doing psych nursing right after graduation. I am so happy where I am. There isn't a day when I don't come home satisfied from my job. I think it is a privilege to be a psych nurse, to be there for that patient who is SO vulnerable and SO impacted by their mental illness that they would do anything to release the pain.... it is a privilege to be the person who has opportunity to begin a conversation with that patient, to ask them for their story. I feel like I am where I am supposed to be, and I don't intend on leaving this unit or this hospital or psychiatric nursing until I retire! No, I don't feel like I'm missing any "skills." Yes, we still insert foley catheters. Yes, our patients still require wound changes. Yes, our patients are still in wheel chairs with arm and leg hard casts and require skin care and ROM exercises. Yes, our patients do need immediate medical attention. Yes, I am still learning medical skills! Yes, I am IV certified! Almost all nurses are trained to perform "skills" but how many nurses can sit down with a patient who is hearing derogatory auditory hallucinations, and make him or her feel safe?

If you want to do psych nursing, just DO IT. Follow your gut. But be smart. Keep your eyes open and your mind sharp when you're going in for interviews. Observe the unit, the patients, the environment. Don't settle, unless you absolutely have no choice. I do not regret for a SECOND that I didn't start with med surg or any other unit like that. I hear my friends from nursing school talk about everything they experience on their med surg floors and I just sigh... because I know I would be absolutely miserable there, and I am so thankful I didn't put myself through that "just because."

Do what you love and you will be happy. It's that easy.

can't stop laughing, you made my day:cheeky:

Specializes in ICU.

I started in Med-Surg and still work there PRN. I will admit I did settle for med-surg, lol, because I could not get hired anywhere else. I hated med-surg in school. However, I have a greater appreciation for med-surg and liked it better than I thought I would. I also think working on med-surg has been very beneficial to my psych career. I don't think you necessarily have to start off in med-surg to help you in psych, but it does not hurt. Hopefully you have preceptors to help you- and it sounds like you do.

This is such a nice post to read! I have been browsing through this site and there's another psych nurse thread that is filled with horrifying stories of nurses being chocked out, kicked, punched, etc. That is not something i desire to go through, but i really want to help mentally ill patients. I agree SO much that you have to check out your environment before accepting that job. I had the same thing happen to me, however, i stupidly accepted the job when they offered it to me in 5 minutes. During orientation they informed me i'd basically be security and a counselor for kids. Excuse me? No. I did not sign up to be on security. I quit that day. Guess what? That hospital later had 2 severely, and dangerously, mentally ill patients escape the unit! Bad place to work for sure. I have a BA in psych and that was all they required. I think a BSN would be a great second bachelor's degree for me, so this is pleasant to read. I also have an MS in criminal justice. I just feel that being a psych nurse, and eventually, an PMHNP would be a great path for me.

@Jules A - thank you for that tip! Because I am a brand new grad I am actually trying very consciously to avoid countertransference (though I know it's a subconscious process) but in general being careful about my investment in the patients, etc. By "keeping them safe" I mean ensuring them that they're safe on the unit and safe around staff, etc. Thank you though :)

@windsurfer8 power to you!! I have ALL the respect for nurses who thrive in med surg and master it. My point was, I knew myself well enough to know that I would personally be miserable on a med surg floor. I didn't want to be taking care of patients when I myself was feeling miserable only because a few people had told me to "do my time" there... that's not fair to the patients. I simply had no interest in it and knew I wouldn't be happy in it (I wasn't happy in the clinicals there, but thrived in psych clinical). I don't feel in any way disadvantaged on my unit now, and I am lucky to have experienced nurses by my side as I learn and ask questions and observe. I know I am NEVER alone on the unit and am lucky to be in a place where we all work together as a team and help each other out. I know this topic is THE debate in psych nursing, but that is just my perspective :)

I totally needed to read this today. Thank you.

Thank you for this thread! I am just going into nursing school, but what motivated me in the first place to make the jump into nursing as a second career, is mental health. I believe whole heartedly that mental health is becoming a topic people are willing to take on, and ease out of the stigma. So many people suffer from mental illness and go undiagnosed. Thank you for posting. I felt very down, because I see a lot of threads stating something to the effect of psych being the "kiss of death" for a career. I am just going into nursing school, and I contacted human resources at this amazing hospital, and I felt like she was telling me "you know not what you ask for, young jedi". I also wished to get some experience at an in-patient psych unit working there, as a mental health aide or unit clerk.

All I asked was for some advice and she just pushed me off stating, try to get an externship through one of your nursing instructors.

They make psych out to be the toughest job to break into, because you need the psych experience, but who will take a chance in training?

I am invested, I want to go for PMHNP, but it seems breaking into the profession is hard for a new grad.

well again thank you, positivity was needed, and your post helped alot.

Hello everyone.

I am an educator looking for information on a nursing course. I am planning to take Excelsior Psychiatric/Mental Heath Nursing in a few weeks. Has anyone taken that exam. Please I would like to know how difficult is the exam and what to study. Thank you!

Long time lurker of this site but just made an account to say thank you for this post! As a new grad who has her 1st interview tomorrow at a psychiatric facility this helped me realize I'm making the right choice. I, too, thought about getting med surg or long term rehab experience first "just incase" because that's what I was always told. In school I got a clinical associate job on a geriatric psych floor and my nurse manager there pushed me to pursue psych first because it was the main reason I went back to school for nursing! As she said, if your heart is in psych then why bother with something you hate just because other people say you should do it. I can only hope that my experience will be as positive as yours. Thank you

Long time lurker of this site but just made an account to say thank you for this post! As a new grad who has her 1st interview tomorrow at a psychiatric facility this helped me realize I'm making the right choice. I, too, thought about getting med surg or long term rehab experience first "just incase" because that's what I was always told. In school I got a clinical associate job on a geriatric psych floor and my nurse manager there pushed me to pursue psych first because it was the main reason I went back to school for nursing! As she said, if your heart is in psych then why bother with something you hate just because other people say you should do it. I can only hope that my experience will be as positive as yours. Thank you

Thank you for this comment. I too want to pursue psych nursing. I am going back to school at 43. I really am interested and want to do this.

I have been offered a position in a crisis response center but truly wanted to be in an emergency department in a section focused on psych. Is there a difference? Do you do much IV therapy? Nurses working/who worked in these setting please let me know. Thank you ! 😊

I have over 15 years experience working in mental/behavioral health and just accepted a psych nurse job at the VA.

How have you adjusted working at the VA? I too was a new grad that started my first RN job in psych (more in particular geri-psych) in the private sector for 4 years. However my unit admitted patients with IV fluids, foleys, GT feedings, etc. We are more of like a med-psych floor. And now I just recently got a new job at the VA in inpatient psych, and I feel like I am honestly losing my skills because the patients must be completely medically cleared in order to be admitted to our unit. They cannot need any IVs, GT feedings, etc.

Just to follow up...as a new grad that started in adolescent psych almost two months ago, I absolutely love my job. I work with the best coworkers I've ever worked with in my life, we love the patients and we love coming into work. I couldn't and wouldn't take a med/surg position. My skills, critical thinking and intuition into our patients as a psych nurse are different than the skills required from an ICU, med/surg nurse. Skills and passion...that's what it comes down to. We are all nurses, after all.

I have been offered a position in a crisis response center but truly wanted to be in an emergency department in a section focused on psych. Is there a difference? Do you do much IV therapy? Nurses working/who worked in these setting please let me know. Thank you ! í ½í¸Š

In the emergency psych department I worked in we did not do many IV's. It really depends on the patient, mental acuity, comorbidities and if your hospital has a bed on the unit for them or if they will be transferred out. It's hard to put an IV in a psychotic pt and keep it there. You mainly give meds IM or oral if they will take it. I am not familiar with a crisis center.

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